2011 Rankings: 14U

[Bdad73]

Hey Lv..Can you tell me exactly which of those in the top 8 you would consider new teams or new flavors? Bc I don't see it..Silver at 6 is probably one of the newer organizations but I don't think you can argue with who heads that team. I wouldn't mind her coaching my dd's team. Nonetheless, I see your point about other tournaments and if in the future it plays out where the top teams really get divided up and tournaments in Sac and Stockton are played simultaneously then yes I agree with your assertion..I took this on more to see how those top teams would look on some kind of point system that rewarded Sunday play..yes you will have some teams that sprout up but likely if they're not a deep team they won't go far on Sundays. The ranking is based strictly on RESULTS..as of the past two tournaments in Stockton. No points for Utrip, IFA, or NSA. It's not even my own opinion..But I would venture to say it's pretty darn close to how the Top 5 would look if there was a coaches poll taken. Only surprise really is the number of 12u teams that are on it..I would imagine even they would get weeded out if this was done over more tournaments but if it didn't I think it'd be another plum for that team to boast about. Again..it's not even an IMO. No pun intended. ; )

[bruisedshin]

Nice system. You might also get a clearer picture by somehow averaging per tournament. I wouldn't use a real average, as it is clearly more impressive to reach the finals in two tournaments than in one. On the other hand, if you were to continue, a team could climb your bracket by simply entering more stockton tournaments.

I appreciate the effort, and I prefer your systematic approach to a more random one.

[fatcat]

Bdad, couple other things on your formula... it should have some kind of divisor (for averaging, similar to what bruisedshins mentioned), so that a team doesn't get tons of points just by playing in more tournys. So for ex: max point per tourney is 30.... if you played in 3 tournys and scored 85 points, you'd have a power ranking of 28.3 points.... you could also have some kind of multiplier that rewards teams for playing in more tournaments. This way a team can't just play in one tournament, win it and then sit happily in the #1 spot forever.

[PitchersDad99]

While I think the number system is better than the "My daughter plays on the team, so they should be #1" system that is currently being used.

The problem is if you don't include the other association tournaments such as Sac ASA, IFA or USSSA some good teams are excluded. Remember RR Gold tournaments are IFA and a lot of good teams play in Sac. IMO

There should be a weighting system (multiplier) for the other association tournaments. There should also be a weighting system for the Saturday pool brackets. I know this sounds crazy but some organizations may skew the Saturday pool brackets towards their teams to help them get further on Sunday. Look at the Norwood Bracket last Saturday, in my opinion it worked for them on Sunday up until they ran in to a quality 14 team (AASA).

All in all I think you are definitely on the right track.

[Bdad73]

Thanks for the feedback! Definitely open to fine tuning this thing should there be a Part II. Adding multipliers, and other factors so long as I have the information to do it. At this point my dd's team likely won't travel to Lincoln/Sac but if someone's willing to give me results I could add that along. Tricky part is when we go outside of ASA and IFA sanctioned RR tournaments..how do you credit teams who do well in other governing bodies' tournaments.

[fatcat]

Don't want to hijack the thread too much, but you could use a multiplier depending on the difficulty of the tourny. I sent you a pm with details.

[ssct1y]

ASA tourney in Lincoln this past weekend.
Pool A Pool B Pool C
West Coast Ghosts Roseville Thunder CC Comets – Loomis
CA Breeze 97 CC Comets – Moore San Jose Sting – Castillo
Misfits Foothill Gold–Sisneroz Nevada Lady Aces
Rocklin Hype 97 Sorcerer 98 South Bay Stars – Blue

Final game between CC Comets Loomis and Sorcerer's.
Sorcerer's threatend with first at bat, but were unable to push in any runs in 1st ining, Comets came out with 5 runs in the 1st with good base running and hits when they needed them. Final score was 8 - 5 with the comets holding off sorcerer's using 3 diffrent pitchers to get the win.
Congrats CC Comets Loomis 14u
Here is a link to brackets and results.
.http://www.asatournaments.com/asa_youth ... ackets.htm

[Tenshun]

Anyone want to take a stab at updating this in anticipation of the high schoolers coming back?

[fastpitch43]

I like the point system...however do you recommend it for 10U teams? Unfortunately the Grapettes tournaments are looking at $$$ and cancelled out 10U bracket for the June 4-5th tournament when they had teams in it and climbing. Im sure more teams would of signed up but the grapes didn't even give it a chance.

[justwin2k10]

I’m sick and tired of carrying all the weight. The coaches and owners not giving me the sh*t I need to win… ________(fill in blank) you’re f****** out. ________ is now a free agent. Buy a bar and get sh** faced. Get me paid, bi+€h... Superstar!
KP

Sounds familiar... R u one these parents

Let the games begin!!!