12U Bracketologist Ranking - Pre ASA Nationals Updated Poll

[bracketologist]

Bracky,

Are we going to get a new poll before States?

Yes – Yes and of course yes…. I will be sending out the ballots after this weekend Mothers Day tournaments.

Can’t wait to see which top 10 team does not qualify at State. It seems it’s always the team without a back up plan… Also 1-2 of the top 30 teams will disband after State – where do all the pieces go!

The baseball forums are so much more entertaining these days, dudes calling each other out and putting their phone numbers on threads saying, "Call me if you want to man the f$#$ up!"

Oh – you are bringing back some good memories – back when the top teams actually played each other ! When a simple word….. Rebels… would incite a riot!

When the teams duck each other and games don't matter .... softball is boring, mind-numbing, lackluster, unexciting, dull, uninteresting, uninspiring etc…..……………

Yes outside of Team Rawlings, I will remember the 98's as “The year of the cupcake schedulers!”

Bracky, Who is the favorite?
Will Victory actually finish a tournament?

Right now all the pressure is on Victory – yes can the team that likes to leave early actually finish a tournament?

Here’s the great thing about State this year! None of the below top 10 teams are good enough to play their C game at State and still qualify. WOW I have never said that before... typically the top teams are so much better then the field that the only thing that can stop them from qualifying is the bracket. Not this year – there is very little difference in talent between teams 2-10 and teams 11-25….. I can’t wait!

#3. Artesia Punishers 98
#3. So Cal Breakers 98 (Sieber)
#5. OC Batbusters 98
#6. Corona Angels 98
#7. USA Athletics 98 (Berouty)
#8. Team Rawlings 98
#9. Double Play 98

Who is the darkhorse?

The final 4 – will most likely all be in the top 15! But I like one of the C+ teams to make it this year!

[fastpitchdad05]

Bracky,

Are we going to get a new poll before States?

Yes – Yes and of course yes…. I will be sending out the ballots after this weekend Mothers Day tournaments.

Can’t wait to see which top 10 team does not qualify at State. It seems it’s always the team without a back up plan… Also 1-2 of the top 30 teams will disband after State – where do all the pieces go!

The baseball forums are so much more entertaining these days, dudes calling each other out and putting their phone numbers on threads saying, "Call me if you want to man the f$#$ up!"

Oh – you are bringing back some good memories – back when the top teams actually played each other ! When a simple word….. Rebels… would incite a riot!

When the teams duck each other and games don't matter .... softball is boring, mind-numbing, lackluster, unexciting, dull, uninteresting, uninspiring etc…..……………

Yes outside of Team Rawlings, I will remember the 98's as “The year of the cupcake schedulers!”

Bracky, Who is the favorite?
Will Victory actually finish a tournament?

Right now all the pressure is on Victory – yes can the team that likes to leave early actually finish a tournament?

Here’s the great thing about State this year! None of the below top 10 teams are good enough to play their C game at State and still qualify. WOW I have never said that before... typically the top teams are so much better then the field that the only thing that can stop them from qualifying is the bracket. Not this year – there is very little difference in talent between teams 2-10 and teams 11-25….. I can’t wait!

#3. Artesia Punishers 98
#3. So Cal Breakers 98 (Sieber)
#5. OC Batbusters 98
#6. Corona Angels 98
#7. USA Athletics 98 (Berouty)
#8. Team Rawlings 98
#9. Double Play 98

Who is the darkhorse?

The final 4 – will most likely all be in the top 15! But I like one of the C+ teams to make it this year!

Great stuff as always Bracky!

Would love to see this kind of follow-up/status post from you on your 14U rankings thread as well if you have the time/inclination.

[TheCloser]

Your absolutely right in some respects Brackey. We're all going to Alabama to actually play each other for the first or second time, pretty odd. We'll find out soon enough as Judgement Day is coming.

Cupcake schedule? Some of the top 12U teams have some pretty good victories over some of top 15 14U teams in your poll so yes and no.

[bracketologist]

Your absolutely right in some respects Brackey. We're all going to Alabama to actually play each other for the first or second time, pretty odd. We'll find out soon enough as Judgement Day is coming.

Cupcake schedule? Some of the top 12U teams have some pretty good victories over some of top 15 14U teams in your poll so yes and no.

Don't fool yourself - I say this every year ... the elite top 12U teams (the ones that will make the semi finals at ASA Nationals) should be able to beat in a tournament a 14U team out of the top 10! Also I do not count friendlies, or victorys over half-dark 14U teams as upsets or quality wins.

Yes FC98 and VC98 have tried to play the top 14U teams but I do not see many “signature wins in 14U”. They have beat the 14U teams they should beat……. This is the same rule applied to OCBB-Ray, PS/Jynx96, CA/OCI95, VC/LL94 etc…. So … FC98 beating VC98 is more impressive then FC98 beating the #1XXOO ranked 14U team.


BigDottie & Closer - Top teams in 12U avoiding each another is the exception and not the rule. In 14U the ducking begins.

.... a little bracky history for you...... below. Look how many tournament games the 96's played against each other! I didn't even count friendlies!

UPDATED! 12u Top Team Ranking – ASA Nationals Friday – July 10, 2009

1. San Diego Power Surge – Tournament record vs. Top Teams: (9-3 WIN PCT .000): FC96 1-1; CA96 4-1; OCBB-M 1-1; CA Rebels 1-0; Jynx 1-0; OCW-96 0-0, BS96 1-0

2. So Cal Jynx – Tournament record vs. Top Teams: (5-5 WIN PCT .000): FC96 1-2; PS96 0-1; OCBB-M 1-0; CA Rebels 1-1; CA96K 1-0; OCW96 0-1; BS96 1-0

3. O.C. Batbusters Marquez – Tournament record vs. Top Teams: (7-4 WIN PCT .000): FC96 2-0; PS96 1-1; Jynx 0-1; CA Rebels 0-1; CA96K 1-1; OCW-96 2-0; BS96 0-0

4. CA Rebels – Tournament record vs. Top Teams: (7-3 WIN PCT .000): FC96 1-0; PS96 0-1; OCBB-M 1-0; CA96K 1-0; Jynx 1-1; OCW-96 3-0; BS96 0-1

5. Firecrackers - - Tournament record vs. Top Teams: (3-5 WIN PCT .000): PS96 1-1; Jynx 2-1; CA96 0-0; OCBB-M 0-2; CA Rebels 0-1; OCW-96 0-0; BS96 0-0

5. Corona Angels Knighten – Tournament record vs. Top Teams: (4-9 WIN PCT .000): FC96 0-0; PS96 1-4; OCBB-M 1-1; CA Rebels 0-2; Jynx 0-1; OCW-96 1-1; BS96 1-0

Follow-up with ASA Nationals Results

1st POWER SURGE 96 San Diego, CA 7-0
2nd SO CAL JYNX West Covina, CA 6-2
4th FIRECRACKERS 96 Laguna Hills, CA 5-2
7th CORONA ANGELS-KNIGHTEN Corona, CA 5-2
9th CALIFORNIA REBELS Bellflower, CA 3-2
25th OC BATBUSTERS 96 Long Beach, CA 2-2

Man – I hope the 99s bring back some backbone back to So Cal 12U softball, next year!

[TheCloser]

Brackey, I guess based on your BCS formula we can make the following assumptions:

Team Rawlings is ranked number 1 by the computers, didn't they have different unis last year, damn they're like Oregon
Victory is Boise State, undersized that win with heady plays with a poor strength of schedule, poor little minny girls
FC98 is a Big 10 powerhouse, lots of power but no speed
USA Athletics plays in the Big East, enough said
Batbusters 98 plays in the ACC, will get a BCS bid, enough to keep the program happy
I guess we'll see what the SEC has in Alabama!!!

[porcupine]

Who is the darkhorse?

Not sure Mike Sieber's Breakers squad counts as a darkhorse, but I don't see the love they deserve. On any given day they can be the best in the country.

[TheCloser]

Agree, you guys have been silently gaining ground.

Darkhorse pick: OC Batbusters 98, don't take this team lightly.

[bracketologist]

Brackey, I guess based on your BCS formula we can make the following assumptions:

Team Rawlings is ranked number 1 by the computers, didn't they have different unis last year, damn they're like Oregon
Victory is Boise State, undersized that win with heady plays with a poor strength of schedule, poor little minny girls
FC98 is a Big 10 powerhouse, lots of power but no speed
USA Athletics plays in the Big East, enough said
Batbusters 98 plays in the ACC, will get a BCS bid, enough to keep the program happy
I guess we'll see what the SEC has in Alabama!!!

Great - this is what makes 12U so fun!

I can't wait for State......... always the best show in town!

[access2]

Congratulation to the Punishers for winning the FC MDC! No fear in those bats! Pitchers made their pitches when it counted- very good defense. My compliments to the coaches.

Choppers and Rawlings had a great run- nice hitting, pitching and defense- I like these teams.

BB98 and Crackers 98 had nice duel of out of state pitchers...

Its good to see the closing of the gap- very good teams with good players and good pitching have emerged - just in time for States.

[PapiBall]

I'm really surprised FC98 didn't get it done in a 2nd major 12U tournament but I guess teams are catching up and as they say it's not March. You may now want to post on the Texas site for pitchers.

Congrats to Punishers! The team is legit.