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14U teams as of 4-18 and additional information

by PDad » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:10 pm

ontheblack wrote:
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Spazsdad wrote:6 berths without traveling or 12.
Not everyone is going to make it to Premier. What are the rest of the teams supposed to do?

Roseville (ASA Western) or Park City?

To make matters worse, the top finishers at 14U State have to decide whether or not to take the ASA/USA berth before PGF's SoCal qualifier.


That shouldnt be a big deal. Hedge your bets and write the check. If you get one of the Premier berths, eat the donation to ASA and your team will still be way ahead money-wise.

As long as SoCal ASA doesn't enforce their rules against that...

15. Shall advance to the next level of play in ASA Championship Play when the team qualifies. A
team that qualifies is defined as that team which has earned a berth to the next level of
Championship Play and accepts the berth.
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Non-Compliance Penalty: Any violation of the above could result in suspension or disqualification.
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by Jammed » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:03 pm

If you dont go to Nationals, your ASA season is likely over anyways.
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by fastpitchdad05 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:15 pm

Jammed wrote:If you dont go to Nationals, your ASA season is likely over anyways.


So it's your contention that the ASA powers that be couldn't carry a disqualification or suspension into the following season?
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by Jammed » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:30 pm

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Jammed wrote:If you dont go to Nationals, your ASA season is likely over anyways.


So it's your contention that the ASA powers that be couldn't carry a disqualification or suspension into the following season?


How does the ASA rulebook define a team?

The top 2 SoCal 12U teams from last year dont exist this year, although one of them bears a remarkable similarity to a top 5 14u team this year.

Teams fold, reform, etc. Wouldnt ASA be chasing its tale?
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by fastpitchdad05 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:27 pm

Jammed wrote:
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Jammed wrote:If you dont go to Nationals, your ASA season is likely over anyways.


So it's your contention that the ASA powers that be couldn't carry a disqualification or suspension into the following season?


How does the ASA rulebook define a team?

The top 2 SoCal 12U teams from last year dont exist this year, although one of them bears a remarkable similarity to a top 5 14u team this year.

Teams fold, reform, etc. Wouldnt ASA be chasing its tale?


That was kind of what I was thinking. Thanks for the clarification/information.
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by Jammed » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:37 pm

I dont know what ASA can do. Im only a dad looking at this as something that seems tough to enforce.
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by PDad » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:25 pm

Jammed wrote:I dont know what ASA can do. Im only a dad looking at this as something that seems tough to enforce.

ASA can enforce a suspension on the manager/coach that would keep them off the field for ASA events.
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by ontheblack » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:28 pm

Pdad, would it be possible to fold a team under ASA and release the players after states, but still field a team that plays Premier?
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by PDad » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:37 pm

PGF doesn't care about ASA rosters. The only connection is Premier will accept ASA ID cards and insurance for their qualifiers (but not for their National Championship).
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by ontheblack » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:46 pm

Spazsdad wrote:The two would have nothing to do with each other. Two independent organizations.
No different than playing ASA and Triple Crown


Right, so being punished by ASA is only a risk if you dont fold the ASA team if you choose not to advance. Am I missing something else here, cuz this still doesnt seem like a big deal to resolve?
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