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Looking for a tourney with less drama than Stockton?

by Mr. Monday! » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:40 am

What happened to the first post about Salinas? Going back on a post.....
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by grass stain » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:29 pm

well we were down there this weekend for an asa pre qualifier. The fields were in great shape the whole weekend. Dragged and chalked between each game. They had the scoreboards working for all the Saturday and Sunday games. I thought the umpires overall were good....especially in the championship game. the championship game between the Storm-Given and SB Stars was a nail biter, with Storm coming out on top 2-1. Overall a very nice experience.
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by Hamstring » Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:57 am

Ok, seriously, aside from the SB and Strom game was there really any point in this tournament? No disrespect to any of the teams but looking at some of the scores reminded me of the old NSA tournaments at Rainbow Fields.

If I know parents like I think I do the smarter ones were mumbling the same comments all weekend wishing they either played in Stockton or made the drive south for a competitive tournament or simply regrouped and had a 5 hour practice working on needed areas of the game.

The finale was a good game, a bit different than both teams experienced all weekend running around the bases with weak pitching and poor defence by the opposition. The fields did look good but I did not get a good look at the mound to see if they rebuilt the 4" dropoff hole that always seemed to bother the pitchers and coaches alike.
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by grass stain » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:59 pm

i'm not going to debate the quality of the competition. Like I said we were there for the check box of getting our pre qualifier in. Plus driving the 45 minutes to Salinas rather than the 1.5 hours to Stockton was a nice change. The tournament was well run, the fields in good shape, the Storm good hosts.
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by ssct1y » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:55 am

Having been to numerous Stockton tourney's, it will most likely be that if its an R&R Gold event, at least 1 of their teams if not 2 will be in the ship. Same with grapes events. Always seems to go thier way when it comes down to Sunday. Both groups do field good teams and are often deserving to make it to the final games, but other times even a spectator without a kid on the field can see the blatent favortism and one sided calls. One more item to note, If your game is at Arnaiz, dont forget your "hardhat"
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by Iluvblue » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:53 am

You are insane, as a former long time Grapette coach, I can promise you that I am the last person that gets any "Favoritism" from any umpires. The umpires could care less about who wins or loses. And you might want to go check those results about which teams make the championship games at R&R tourneys.


As many problems as I have had with umpires over the years, I have never felt like they favored one team over another... but then we aint losing game one on Sunday and looking for someone to blame either.
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by lovesoftball22 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:19 am

Bad umping is usually being out of place for making a call. Whether behind plate or on field. What appears as favortism --usually is just the amount of the close plays one team has vs the other and the ump being out of position. Therefore it seems one sided , but just how the action plays out.

The worst umpire situation is the one where they want to be part of the game so they look for those plays to "make a big show" of. Ringing a girl up or plays or close plays at plate. Adding flames to the fire vs being the unseen , unsung , unbaised participant of the game.
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