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by AlwaysImprove » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:48 am

Informal wrote:
hotwheels wrote:
screw you wrote:what would parents do if they find out the new girl on there team which came from a top tier team was getting a free ride!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :x :x


This happens all the time! Some kids have huge talent but are not financially able to pay so the team covers it. Sometimes even, the manager covers the cost. I've have personally done this no fewer than 6 times in my coaching career. Oh, and it's not your business. Your business should be your daughter and not another kid. If you don't like it, leave...It's pretty simple...Why look for drama?

I'm not exactly sure what your point is with this post. I sense that you are looking to bash someone from my "Bat-senses" and "Spidey-power"...

JMHO, as with any issue with any travel ball team or anything in life...If you don't like something then just leave...Why bring so much hate in this world??? It's all love and strawberries! :)



I have seen it a time or two... If the Manager wants to cover it from his pocketbook, not a problem.
If it's snuck in, and it equals every parent unknowingly covering her costs? Man.. I dunno, she better be a fricking World-beater.. If Mom or Dad drops Miss Suzie free-ride off in a late model BMW or Mercedes? Get a rope!
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Not sure how something can get 'snuck in'. It is all pretty clear. Everyone knows how much a tournament. You know how many tournaments the team plays. You know all the other costs.

Everyone agrees to a number at the start of the year.
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by Informal » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:50 am

AlwaysImprove wrote:Not sure how something can get 'snuck in'. It is all pretty clear. Everyone knows how much a tournament. You know how many tournaments the team plays. You know all the other costs.

Everyone agrees to a number at the start of the year.


Judging by the famous Skarp and Ben budget thread, I would say most parents are effectively in the dark regarding team finances.

I personally don't understand why so many head coaches (or their spouses) assume the role of treasurer, that's the last thing I would want added on my plate.

For the record, My kid has never been on a team where I questioned the finances.

For me, If I feel the coaching/system is worth the cost of admission, I'm happy.
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by bart16761 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:18 pm

I know of more organizations that do this than don't. Good players make average players get better. Thank the family and the organization for helping to improve the calliber of your team. Have a great season.
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by AlwaysImprove » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:25 pm

Informal wrote:
AlwaysImprove wrote:Not sure how something can get 'snuck in'. It is all pretty clear. Everyone knows how much a tournament. You know how many tournaments the team plays. You know all the other costs.

Everyone agrees to a number at the start of the year.


Judging by the famous Skarp and Ben budget thread, I would say most parents are effectively in the dark regarding team finances.

I personally don't understand why so many head coaches (or their spouses) assume the role of treasurer, that's the last thing I would want added on my plate.

For the record, My kid has never been on a team where I questioned the finances.

For me, If I feel the coaching/system is worth the cost of admission, I'm happy.


First to answer your treasurer question. Most coaches hold the pocket book because it can become a major problem. If Suzy's mom is treasurer and Suzy's mom feels they have been wronged (play time, not invited to dinner, not staying at their chosen hotel) good luck getting the teams funds. I have seen parents run off with other parents money about 8 times in the past 12 years.

As far as funds. On all the teams I have been on, there is just not that much room for mystery. First the income side. For a no travel team, 12 kids at $1,000 per kid, $12,000. Now onto expenses. 18 tournaments at $600, $10,800. About 1k in uniforms, leaving only about $200 for balls, fields etc. If you are on a team that pays for coaches travel, you can figure what the coach is spending because it is the same as what you are paying.

Again, 95% of the time that this comes up it comes up in April/May. This is when some of the parents are figuring out that at go time their little Suzy is not getting the call. If those parents feel they are being wronged in some important way, those parents will go to almost anything.
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by Skarp » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:03 pm

Informal wrote:For me, If I feel the coaching/system is worth the cost of admission, I'm happy.

...the beginning and end of all useful analysis on the subject.

Re the budget thread, any exchange in which one side never makes a single cogent point in about 30 attempts hardly qualifies as (or at least hardly deserves to be) famous. Ben is too busy fantasizing about (Mc)Lovin' in his keister to actually think his positions (no pun intended) through...
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by McLovin » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:59 am

Skarp wrote:
Informal wrote: Ben is too busy fantasizing about (Mc)Lovin' in his keister to actually think his positions (no pun intended) through...


Now hold on there......keep me out of this!
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