Premier is it really worth it at 14U?

[fastpitchdad05]

So far, the GA Impact team that finished 2nd at ASA (with its only 2 losses the entire season against OCBB Ray) isnt listed in a single Premier Qualifier. Same with Texas Ice and Atl Vipers, both with top 15 finishes. Now I know these are 97s, but there are several top 30 teams (96s) that appear to be skipping Premier.

You cant seriously make the argument that whoever wins Premier at 14s is National Champ, particularly if these and others like PS96 are at ASA.

Agreed. It will be interesting to see if PGF can somehow pull this together.

If I were them I'd start by listening to their customers...all of them, not just the elite teams.

Otherwise they're gonna end up playing a glorified friendly.

You have not really stated your issue with Premier. Just that you do not like something that happens at Surf City.

It is led by the same two guys that run Surf City. They are unresponsive. I am concerned that they will be the same way with PGF.

Here let me give you an example: AT&T just bought T-Mobile. It has been my experience that AT&T's customer service is very poor. Therefore I would worry that the post-acquisition customer service for T-Mobile would be poor. And if it is, then it might be time to look for a new service provider.

I sincerely hope this helps to clarify my position on Surf City, PGF and Haning and Hay.

BTW...I find it ironic that your name is AlwaysImprove and yet you are questioning why I would like to see improvement in how Hay and Haning handle their business. And yes...they definitely consider this a business, which I suspect is at the heart of the issue.

Your example is about large corporate mergers. Not sure how it applies. Kinda like saying, the guy who runs North Korea is nutty as a loon, so there you go.

I know many coaches who consider Hay and Haning very responsive.

And, I would think a question that is basically "How exactly would you want Haning and Hay to improve their business?" would be exactly the question to ask, if we really are seeking improvement.

Otherwise someone may get the idea that you are shilling for the other side. Just saying.

I'm not shilling for the other side and business is business when it comes to customer service.

Someone's shilling here, but it ain't me.

You seem pretty adamant about playing stupid as far as the legitimate concerns I have posted (at least I hope it's playing). So what's your angle here?

Here's a start...after 3 months there's finally an update to the PGF website:

http://premiergirlsfastpitch.com/News.php

Anyone who thinks for a second that this wasn't expedited at least in part to the discussion here on HeyBucket is burying their head in the sand. Let me guess who the first ostrich will be...

[AlwaysImprove]

So now you are saying they are being responsive?

[fastpitchdad05]

So now you are saying they are being responsive?

It's a start. We're watching.

[anonlooker]

If you call your kids down for dinner and they show up three months later, are they being responsive?

[The Haymaker]

All you parents of the upcoming younger age groups just need to relax. You have been spoiled by playing in Triple Crown and other tournaments that cater to your whims. Oh, send us schedules early, Oh post results during the event, prep the fields between games, give us toilet paper, Blah, Blah, Blah
Grow up and smell the coffee. This is how I do things at my level. If you keep it up you will find your team playing in Beaumont.
I know who you are.
I am the Haymaker

[fastpitchdad05]

Now if we could get them to actually respond directly to emails and phone calls and not cash checks for teams they don't put in their tournaments we'd really be getting somewhere.

By the way, don't think we don't all know which coaches you were referring to that would say that they are responsive. Those would be the members of the good old boys network of which you are probably a member yourself.

[fastpitchdad05]

All you parents of the upcoming younger age groups just need to relax. You have been spoiled by playing in Triple Crown and other tournaments that cater to your whims. Oh, send us schedules early, Oh post results during the event, prep the fields between games, give us toilet paper, Blah, Blah, Blah
Grow up and smell the coffee. This is how I do things at my level. If you keep it up you will find your team playing in Beaumont.
I know who you are. I am the Haymaker

LMAO...You tell 'em Haymaker! Who do we think we are anyway?

Let's all just stand in the corner and do as we're told and no one will get hurt.

"If he gets up, we'll all get up! It'll be anarchy!"

[fastpitchdad05]

If you call your kids down for dinner and they show up three months later, are they being responsive?

No, but some nights at our house I'd prefer that.

[AlwaysImprove]

So now you are saying they are being responsive?

It's a start. We're watching.

Since you are watching, we will all stand down.

FWIW: I am not a member of the gold old boys network. As I stated before, I have been involved in those that are 'in' and those that are not. I remember everyone standing around saying the gold old boys network gets it all. I am merely trying to point out why that happens.

[Gary Haning]

The post about the Florida berths is a hoax, I assume brought on by the date. If there is an
area of the country that does not participate we will adjust the berths.

As to being unresponsive, I answer every inquiry I receive for Premier and Surf City. I do not read this forum too much as it is impossible to deal with all of the comments from all of the people, positive or negative. If you have a question send a message through the Premier website or to batbuste@pacbell.net and I will answer it as soon as I can.

As to the value at 14U, I guess we will see. There were MANY teams from most of the country that wanted a tournament in 14U, the games will be played on nice fields in a nice area and will have everything the other age groups have. The first year ASA did Gold it was 29 teams and they had to beg to get that many. As 16U and 18HS were last year, this is new and maybe some people will give us a chance before condemning our efforts.