12U Bracketologist Ranking - Pre ASA Nationals Updated Poll

[sofbal1234]

Thanks for the confirmation on CoachEd, WendyPeffercorn. Can't wait to see how upset he gets when the Punishers start their slide down the poll

[skilz365]

Sounds like sour grapes from sofbal 1234. Shouldn't hold Coach Ed's opinions/comments against the Punishers. Last I heard the Punishers have won (2) straight tournament championships, playing up in 14 friendlys, while the CA '98 were polishing their trophy from back in January wondering why nobody gives them any respect.

I agree the top (2) teams are certainly Victory & Firecrackers '98. Truth is Ca'98, Punishers, 98, Batbusters '98, Breakers '98 (Sieber) are all very good teams.
They all have the same thing in common........need to be more consistant.

[softball4everandever]

What has Victory USA done in the last three months?

[onthejuice]

Sounds like sour grapes from sofbal 1234. Shouldn't hold Coach Ed's opinions/comments against the Punishers. Last I heard the Punishers have won (2) straight tournament championships, playing up in 14 friendlys, while the CA '98 were polishing their trophy from back in January wondering why nobody gives them any respect.

I agree the top (2) teams are certainly Victory & Firecrackers '98. Truth is Ca'98, Punishers, 98, Batbusters '98, Breakers '98 (Sieber) are all very good teams.
They all have the same thing in common........need to be more consistant.

Just to clarify, it's not a trophy it's a "PLAQUE". Geez, get it right!!!

Also from your earlier post it is "on a roll" not "on a role".

[SitOnTheBench]

What has Victory USA done in the last three months?

Kick a** on everyone and lost to the best 12U pitcher.

[HIT & RUN]

Coach Ed seems to be right on. I would also guess the DD is on team CA '98 with his/her response to Coach Ed's opinion. It is just that, an opinion.

Here are facts. Firecrackers '98 beat Victory, not a month or two ago, but this past weekend.
CA '98 is still content w/their win at the OC Classic a few months ago while
upsetting the Punishers who did not have their #1 pitcher.
Punishers beat the CA '98 2 weeks ago and contrary to CA '98 parent, they
hit their entire 13 line-up. Good thing they didn't hit their strongest 9.
Punishers have won their last (2) tournaments and beat very good teams this
past weekend including Breakers (Sieber) & Firecrackers '99.
Breakers (Sieber) is on a role and improving each time I see them play.
In my OPINION.......the CA '98 team has a lot to prove and will continue to
hold up their OC Classic trophy to make their case. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
LATELY!
The OC Batbusters '98 beat the Punishers at a friendly in a close game and
deserve the #3 or #4 slot in my opinion.
Team Rawlings has beat who lately? They were eliminated Sunday by
Breakers (Williams).
Firecrackers '99 is a very good team. They are scrappy and can compete with
the top '98 teams. This team has a pitcher who will give them a chance.
Firecrackers '99 had a great chance to take the So Cal's Finest tournament
this past weekend. They had a good showing against the Punishers, but not
enough to keep up w/the Punishers bats.

Rankings are a conversation tool, means nothing until May! Who is improving and who is living in the past! Did I mention my rec ball team won the championship in 1996!!!

Spot on!! The only thing I would add is that many of the teams still ranked high really havent done anything this year and are still holding on to their accomplishments of the fall. Punishers are a really good team and will do very well at STATES as long as So Cal Top Team isnt in their bracket CA 98 have some of the best bats out there but they struggle against fast teams who play the small ball. Most of the top 5 has been playing 14u and staying off the 12u radar....

[Clamato]

What has Victory USA done in the last three months?

Kick a** on everyone and lost to the best 12U pitcher.

What has Victory won in the last 18 months? I think they are the best 12U team to have never won a 12U tournament.

Victory has been shut out twice by 12U teams this year. Firecrackers has also shown they can be shut down in tournaments. Ask the Grapettes.

I would say Firecrackers deserves the #1 spot because they have the head to head win over Victory and they have tournament championships. They are both very good teams. However, if you are saying they do not need to worry about the rest of the pack, your confidence in them may exceed their ability! JMO

[sofbal1234]

My apologies to the Punishers for my earlier post about them batting only 9 against the CA's98 That parent from Punishers pointed out that "Victory" was only batting 9 when CA98 was playing them Once again, my sincere apologies for the misinformation!!! MY BAD!!!

[SitOnTheBench]

What has Victory USA done in the last three months?

Kick a** on everyone and lost to the best 12U pitcher.

What has Victory won in the last 18 months? I think they are the best 12U team to have never won a 12U tournament.

Victory has been shut out twice by 12U teams this year. Firecrackers has also shown they can be shut down in tournaments. Ask the Grapettes.

I would say Firecrackers deserves the #1 spot because they have the head to head win over Victory and they have tournament championships. They are both very good teams. However, if you are saying they do not need to worry about the rest of the pack, your confidence in them may exceed their ability! JMO

Not sure which team your referring to. But, I do agree both teams are very good. Firecrackers defense was not tested because their pitcher controlled the game. Victory's defense did not look like the Victory defense I've seen. JMO

[PapiBall]

What has Victory USA done in the last three months?

Kick a** on everyone and lost to the best 12U pitcher.

What has Victory won in the last 18 months? I think they are the best 12U team to have never won a 12U tournament.

Victory has been shut out twice by 12U teams this year. Firecrackers has also shown they can be shut down in tournaments. Ask the Grapettes.

I would say Firecrackers deserves the #1 spot because they have the head to head win over Victory and they have tournament championships. They are both very good teams. However, if you are saying they do not need to worry about the rest of the pack, your confidence in them may exceed their ability! JMO

You're right, Victory has never won any of the coveted Triple Crown or USSSA tournaments that are held every weekend. What is that team's problem?