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California Community Colleges may lose all sports????

by Surehitter » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:43 pm

I am so wide awake and hope they take sports away at the Community College level and everything that supports it including - staff, vehicles, facilities etc, it is a huge waste of our tax $$$. If you can't work and put yourself through Community College then you don't want it bad enough. Having any student collect tuition $$ for playing a sport at the Community College is just a waste. Most athletes are getting a free ride at the Community College level after goofing off in high school and being in a position where they need to bring there academics into line so they can attend the four year school. Let them all pay to attend school like evryone else !!

As far as High School sports - We paid and did enough fund raising to support our softball program and do field improvements all four years. The coach stuck to his guns you don't pay you practice and then sit on the bench no matter how good you are ( pretty interesting how the $$ suddenly show up )
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by as the world turns » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:14 pm

Do you hear that huge sucking sound?? It's your tax dollar being sucked away from the basic services and programs like HS sports programs in order to fund the ridiculous public union pensions.

Btw, we are not getting our money's worth:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gPmjfDMN5nHOpeSIZYLwkVfKAHGQ?docId=c7dc0757afd54b5ca2836c00de44535f
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by AM Softball » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:17 pm

If those stats are correct (10-20%), that is better than 0% so it helped some players advance and save money on their education. I guess it also depends on the sport. I'm sure some are a lot more expensive than the others. As someone else stated, I still believe they are great life experiences, worthwhile, and totally different than sitting in a classroom.

I teach at a middle school and we have very few sports there either, which frustrates me, because that is the age we can teach and get the kids interested and ready for HS. Schools have already cut most of the extracurricular activities, field trips, clubs, etc. and I think that is a real shame because experiences teach much more than reading a book or listening to a lecture.

All these people running the show, with their masters and doc. degrees, cannot even make a budget that doesn't lose money, so maybe we should cut school all together...being facitious but you get my point. It just sucks that these athletes will probably be punished.
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by Under the Radar » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:27 am

In CA JR Colleges & D-2 / D-3 or NAIA schools do not give scholarships to athletes
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by Surehitter » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:55 am

Under the Radar - You are incorrect NAIA and Div 2 do give but in a differnt way. Usually they call it somthing else like a waive of tuition and fees plus you get first choice at the classes you want or need.

AM Softball - Let's just teach the kids at the middle school level !!! The level of sports at the middle school level is a joke anyways as you can't have anyone left out or have there feelings hurt. Just another huge waste of money.

No sports in Middle school let's just teach them (the real athletes are playing outside of school )
No sports at Community Colleges
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by Under the Radar » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:58 am

Surehitter I was told in the State of California they do not give $$$. Maybe I am wrong. I do know they give financial aid but that is a loan.
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by lovsofbal » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:06 am

I haven't heard of a bill, but many of the CC's are hurting financially and looking into the reduction of many areas including sports unfortunately.
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by blackwidow » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:42 am

sr_design wrote:Instead of these left-wingers driving the state into the ground and threatening to kill and/or reduce services to the things that the paying public (i.e. taxpayers) use such as libraries, parks, school sports and tuition, and infrastructure upkeep to coerce the public into MORE tax raises when we are already among the most taxed people in the country they should look at the places where there is real abuse of tax dollars and go after that money first. By the way, I was in Arizona over the weekend to catch some spring training and gas was 55-60 cents a gallon cheaper over there and the highways were in great condition as well.



Free-State run education is a left-wing concept. So are public libraries, parks and sports programs.
A perfect example of how Americans who are educated in this same public school system don't even understand that they are socialist ideas.

Google:
10 planks of communist manifesto and read #10.

From the World Socialist Web
http://www.wsws.org/media/s23-isse-cali.pdf



I support the elimination of public funding for all community college sports programs.
I would even go one radical step further and advocate for a complete separation of school and state as described here:

http://www.schoolandstate.org/case.htm

Watch:
Stupid in America for some enlightening information regarding our public school system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4pN-aiofw

Nice to see an interesting, civil discussion going on here.

Rare.

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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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by Imperial SB Dad » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:48 am

Surehitter wrote: If you can't work and put yourself through Community College then you don't want it bad enough. Having any student collect tuition $$ for playing a sport at the Community College is just a waste. Most athletes are getting a free ride at the Community College level after goofing off in high school and being in a position where they need to bring there academics into line so they can attend the four year school. Let them all pay to attend school like evryone else !!


You are operating on a misconception here. California Community Colleges are prohibited from offering any kind of financial assistance to a student athlete. There are absolutely no athletic scholarships at the California Community College level.
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by lovsofbal » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:21 am

Imperial SB Dad wrote:
Surehitter wrote: If you can't work and put yourself through Community College then you don't want it bad enough. Having any student collect tuition $$ for playing a sport at the Community College is just a waste. Most athletes are getting a free ride at the Community College level after goofing off in high school and being in a position where they need to bring there academics into line so they can attend the four year school. Let them all pay to attend school like evryone else !!


You are operating on a misconception here. California Community Colleges are prohibited from offering any kind of financial assistance to a student athlete. There are absolutely no athletic scholarships at the California Community College level.


Does your daughter play travel softball?
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