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by Iluvblue » Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:19 pm

The real problem is in the fact that I reported this to the right people, yet I seriously doubt ANYTHING was done with this umpire other than a little talk to.

Funny part was when the guy tried to throw me out of the tournament for the entire weekend and he told that to the people running the tournament that didnt go over so well.

Then as the location tournament director tried to talk to this umpire after the incident, the umpire gave him all sorts of attitude and crap. So the TD asks him, " Is this the way you talked to the coach? Now I understand why he had a problem with you."

Funny how this guy thought he was throwing me out for the entire weekend.... maybe he should learn his craft a little better.
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by GIMNEPIWO » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:01 am

MTR wrote:Whether you like it or not, it is assault and battery and against the law. And whether you agree with it or not, too often this is ignored and it escalates in some format then or in the future.

Most states take this so seriously, there are specific laws in place just to address this situation. I once has a Lt. Col. of the state police force intentionally bump me in an act of intimidation. Who is going to take care of that one? A couple years ago, a player who routinely got away with physical contact with umpires, but none of the umpires took legal action and it escalated to the point this MD state policeman threw a ball full strength at an umpire's head. The only thing that saved this umpire's life was an alert batter reaching out and deflecting the ball. Because of his position, no one would do anything.

There are constant issues around the country where parents and coaches attack game officials and, in some cases, each other.


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That's ridiculous! In many areas of California we have an underpaid police force that is already stretched too thin and you think a chest bump warrants a call to the police? Do you have any idea the cost for this type of action? Forget the fact that by the time one shows up, the game is another inning or two old.


While I don't think I would call a cop for an accidental chest bump, I would for intentional aggresive physical contact ... But I certainly wouldn't call either of the 2 cops MTR has had experience with ... :lol:

And in reference to ONTHEBLACK's comment ... We stopped calling the cops when we had thefts at our business because they don't even show up ... they MAY call and take a police report over the phone if your lucky ... Although last year when we were robbed and my partner was assaulted they did come out in force ... they set up a road block in front of the donut shop while the suspect was running behind the bank across the street with our money ...
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by MTR » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:47 pm

GIMNEPIWO wrote:While I don't think I would call a cop for an accidental chest bump, I would for intentional aggresive physical contact ...


Well, see, that is part of the point. There should never be "accidental" contact since the coach/player and umpire should never be that close in a possible confrontational situation. People will come out of the woodwork trying to justify questionable actions by people they like or will not believe could possibly be such a culprit. But think about how close someone would have to be to "accidentally" chest bump you. I don't allow friends and family to get that close during a casual conversation, so why would I allow a coach/player who is not approaching you to discuss this Sunday's sermon?
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by Bretman » Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:41 pm

Try "accidently/incidently" chest bumping one of those underpaid, overworked police officers while you're screaming in his face, then let us know how that worked out for you. Somehow, I doubt that they're going to let this slide based on "the cost involved with following up this action".

I had a strange incident involving someone "invading my space" after a game last week. About twenty minutes after the game, my partner and I were at our cars in the parking lot. An obviously aggitated lady who I've never seen before approaches us and demands to know our names. We give them to her. She walks to her car, about twenty yards away from us, and my partner and I are looking at each other like, "What was that all about?".

I started laughing and said something along the lines of, "Who the "blank" was that "blank?". Yeah, it was probably a rude comment, but it was directed toward my partner in a conversational tone, while the lady was in her car on the other side of the parking lot.

She heard us say "something" and heard us laughing, so she jumps out of her car and begins screaming at us. I turned my back to her and said to my partner, "Just ignore her". Us ignoring her seemed to tick her off even more, and she screamed at us out her car window all the way out of the parking lot.

This lady contacted our league officials to complain about "questionable calls" made during the game (there really weren't any) and about our "rough treatment" of her husband- the coach of the losing team- who we had to crack down on a couple of times for arguing about calls.

She also claimed that we were rude to her in the parking lot. As it turns out, she didn't even hear the rude comment I made- just heard us say "something" and laugh about it. All I told our league officials was that if this lady hadn't been accosting us in the parking lot in the first place we never would have had the opportunity to be rude to her and that if she didn't want to hear "locker room talk" then it would be in her best interest to stay the heck away from what was, essentially, our "locker room".

If you "accidently" bump someone during an argument, then you were too close to them to begin with. And if don't confront officials in the parking lot, you'll never have to worry about them being rude while you're confronting them!
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by Ace » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:25 pm

You shoulda called the cops. :oops:
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by Sam » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:45 pm

Apparently, from MTR and Bretman's point of view, it is always the coach who, not only causes the contact, but also causes the two parties to be too close in every situation this happens. It is NEVER the umpire who reacts to a coach comment and comes closer to the coach in order to be heard.

I've had a few umpires chase me as I walked away from them, one of which apparently wanted to see what my nose smelled like. If had accidently bumped him after I walked away from the conversation, I guess I should be arrested and charged with a felony. The volunteer gets charged with the crime and has to spend $5K on attornies if the volunteer has any money....after all .....we are talking about volunteers. Then the volunteer loses the case and is fired from their job for being a convicted felon. All because an umpire needed to smell a nose.
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by Ace » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:10 pm

HAHA one time I had an umpire walk from first base all the way to the 3rd base box to whisper a few things in my ear!
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by anonlooker » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:16 pm

Ace wrote:HAHA one time I had an umpire walk from first base all the way to the 3rd base box to whisper a few things in my ear!


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by Ace » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:33 pm

anonlooker wrote:
Ace wrote:HAHA one time I had an umpire walk from first base all the way to the 3rd base box to whisper a few things in my ear!


Yeah, I remember her. She was hot!


She wanted to make sure that I interpreted the "leaving early rule" and assured me the game was "drop dead" :?
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by MTR » Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:25 pm

Sam wrote:Apparently, from MTR and Bretman's point of view, it is always the coach who, not only causes the contact, but also causes the two parties to be too close in every situation this happens. It is NEVER the umpire who reacts to a coach comment and comes closer to the coach in order to be heard.


BretMan, did you delete the post where you said on the coach is guilty of such a thing? I certainly don't remember saying such a thing. You think Sam Strawman might be making this up?

I've had a few umpires chase me as I walked away from them, one of which apparently wanted to see what my nose smelled like. If had accidently bumped him after I walked away from the conversation, I guess I should be arrested and charged with a felony. The volunteer gets charged with the crime and has to spend $5K on attornies if the volunteer has any money....after all .....we are talking about volunteers. Then the volunteer loses the case and is fired from their job for being a convicted felon. All because an umpire needed to smell a nose.


Apparently, there is a reading comprehension issue here. Actually, I would expect nothing less from ANYONE who is assaulted than to press charges.
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