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How to cut a coach and his DD?

by NUTJOBFASTPITCHDAD » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:12 pm

I have a coach who doesn't bring too much to the table but does have that "good guy factor", his DD is by far the weakest player on the team. It is clear what has to take place in the near future, any thoughts on how I go about this? To me this is different than just cutting another player because he does help in several other capacities. I have seen that look on my daughters face for the last time, I just need some advice how to do this as amicably as possible.
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by Lefty's Dad » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:43 pm

Dude just call me and let me know :lol:
Seriously though, he has to know if his daughter really is the weakest player on the team. Just let him know at the end of the season that the team needs to be more competitive the next season and that maybe his daughter would be a better fit on another team where she would get more playing time. She needs to develop more as a player and on your team she would see a lot of bench time next season.
BUT....I know your a coach of a younger team so Im not really sure why it's that big of a deal to let the player stay. She's still young and unless she can't catch a ball or she swings the bat like a flyswatter you don't know if she can turn into a quality player or not yet. Try working with her and explain to the Dad/Coach that with a lot of work and time she could turn into an every game player but next season she might see less time on the dirt.
Who knows, if he's that much of a nice guy maybe he thinks you suck as a coach and is just waiting for an easy way out.
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by SoftballSoccerDad » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:28 am

Lefty's Dad wrote:Who knows, if he's that much of a nice guy maybe he thinks you suck as a coach and is just waiting for an easy way out.


Your posting prowess has not gone unnoticed.

I need to do a little research, however, to see whether this was just a one-time gem. :P
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by pbj2000 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:33 am

I agree with the above poster. let him know she'll see less dirt time...most likely they'll cut tail and start their own team, so either way she'll still get her playing time ;)
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by Two's Dad » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:24 am

One somewhat common strategy for coaches to rid themselves of weak players is to bring on stronger players and sit the weaker players. The weaker players eventually get fed up and leave. A little bit harder with a coach being involved and not really the most ethical way to go about it.

In all honesty if your team isn't completing for tournament wins or going to nationals, then there is no real reason to get rid of the kid and coach. Encourage her and dad to work on her skills outside of team practice. Until she improves get her time in pool games and mop up situations.
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by tiltman » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:10 am

I have been on both sides of this, you are doing no one any favors. Its not easy at all but it does nothing for you, the other coach and most of all the kid to bake her on the end of the bench. If she is meant to play at whatever level she will land somewhere eventually.
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by Phantomz08 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:32 am

NUTJOBFASTPITCHDAD wrote:I have a coach who doesn't bring too much to the table but does have that "good guy factor", his DD is by far the weakest player on the team. It is clear what has to take place in the near future, any thoughts on how I go about this? To me this is different than just cutting another player because he does help in several other capacities. I have seen that look on my daughters face for the last time, I just need some advice how to do this as amicably as possible.


You could temporarily make me manager of your team, I will do the dirty work in a very short period of time and then you can have the team back. :lol: :lol:
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by KDozer » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:26 pm

Be HONEST to the dude. Don't do all the bush league BS like sitting her until she quits. Be freaking honest so she has a chance to grow and move on. It sounds like the assistant deserves at least that much by what he delivers. To often we pretend we want to be good and fair when most on the team want to WIN no mater what. Whats best for the team? Let him know. A HS or college coach wouldn't hesitate to do whats best.

If you are able to cope and make up for what the assistant coach brings to the table, then make the cut and grow a set to explain your reasons. If you are too dependent on what he brings you may be making a mistake to cut her. You still should explain that improvement in his daughter is necessary either way.

It sounds like you may be dependent on what this dude brings to the table and you would have to do much more work if he was gone. Is it worth it to lose him? You decide. Either way, figure out if you could sleep at night if you were honest. I could.
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by fly on the wall » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:07 pm

KDozer wrote:Be HONEST to the dude. Don't do all the bush league BS like sitting her until she quits. Be freaking honest so she has a chance to grow and move on. It sounds like the assistant deserves at least that much by what he delivers. To often we pretend we want to be good and fair when most on the team want to WIN no mater what. Whats best for the team? Let him know. A HS or college coach wouldn't hesitate to do whats best.

If you are able to cope and make up for what the assistant coach brings to the table, then make the cut and grow a set to explain your reasons. If you are too dependent on what he brings you may be making a mistake to cut her. You still should explain that improvement in his daughter is necessary either way.

It sounds like you may be dependent on what this dude brings to the table and you would have to do much more work if he was gone. Is it worth it to lose him? You decide. Either way, figure out if you could sleep at night if you were honest. I could.

Iagree tell the guy so he and dd can move on with their softball!!!!!
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by Trixsie » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:30 am

There is not enough honesty in this part of the game. I continue to see coaches that truly lack the ability to make obvious moves on teams because they lack the stones to face their problems head on and do what needs to be done. MOST people would be receptive to hearing the truth, they likely know it already anyway. stuff like this is what keeps potentially good teams from becoming very good teams.
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