http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-be ... 45969.html
Are Mexican-Americans (or anyone, for that matter) really offended by this type of thing? Would it have been okay if the kids wore Swiss flags, or Danish, or Japanese? wtf?
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... when you show your American pride on someone else's Party Day. Really? Really.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-be ... 45969.html
Are Mexican-Americans (or anyone, for that matter) really offended by this type of thing? Would it have been okay if the kids wore Swiss flags, or Danish, or Japanese? wtf?
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-be ... 45969.html
Are Mexican-Americans (or anyone, for that matter) really offended by this type of thing? Would it have been okay if the kids wore Swiss flags, or Danish, or Japanese? wtf?
Don't worry about tomorrow. You did that yesterday.
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anonlooker - Posts: 3114
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Cinco de Mayo is a "holiday" invented by Corona Brewing Co in order to sell beer. Yes it is about the battle of Puebla, where the Mexicans kicked some French army's butt, how tough can that be? The only celebration that happens in Mexico is a parade in Puebla, Mexico.
Here is an explanation I found:
If thirty years ago you had asked the average American what Cinco de Mayo was they would have no idea what you were talking about. Ask them today and they could tell you it's some kind of Mexican holiday. Beyond that nobody is really sure what it celebrates or why it has become popular in the U.S. so I figured I would answer a few questions.
So, what is Cinco de Mayo?
Cinco de Mayo, or in English the Fifth of May, is a holiday in Mexico celebrating the victory of the Mexican Nationals over Napoleon the III's French troops at the battle of Puebla in 1862. The attempted French invasion was thwarted and Mexico was finally free from the imperial powers of Europe.
Was Cinco de Mayo important to U.S. history?
Ooo, good question. some believe that if the French invasion had been successful it might have led to more colonization by Napoleon III in the Americas and WWI might just have been fought along the U.S./Mexico border. Nobody is really sure who the other powers, Germany and England, would have supported since neither were allies of either France or the U.S. at the time. But that is just speculation, at the time the U.S. was involved in it's own Civil War and couldn't care less what happened to Mexico.
Is Cinco de Mayo in Mexico the equivalent of the 4th of July in the U.S. ?
No, Mexico celebrates it's independence day on September 16th and Cinco de Mayo is considered a minor regional holiday. It would be the same as people celebrating January 8th or July 1st. If you are a die hard history buff you probably know the significance of those dates but for everyone else I won't make you look them up. On January 8th Andrew Jackson's troops finally defeated the British at the Battle of New Orleans and on July 1st Teddy Roosevelt led his troops up Kettle Hill in Cuba. Of course Kettle Hill didn't sound Spanish-y enough for American papers so they called it the battle of San Juan hill, and here you thought the media invented lying during Bush's war in Iraq.
So if Cinco de Mayo isn't a major holiday in Mexico how did it come to be celebrated in the U.S. ?
Ah, now here is a good question. In the 1980's foreign beer became trendy in the U.S. Go to any frat party and you would find guys slamming Moosehead, Fosters or even Grolsch lagers. Corona decided they wanted in on this so they started marketing themselves in America. But American beer companies worried about cheep suds coming North across the border and interfering with their grip on the market. So a distributor of Henieken started a rumor that the FDA found traces of human urine in Corona and spread false reports that Mexican workers had been observed peeing into the beer at the bottling plant, allegedly.
Corona's reputation had been badly damaged and even though they had proven the rumors to be outright lies and won a lawsuit they needed something to regain their losses in the beer market. They came up with a brilliant strategy, they needed a specific holiday in which people wouldn't want to drink Canadian, Australian, German, or even U.S. beers but only Mexican brew.
The logical choice was Mexico's independence day, September 16th, but there was a problem. It seemed that Seis de Septiembre was just too ethnic and hard to pronounce for most Americans and its official name Grito de Dolores was just too confusing and hard to explain. Corona decided to look around and soon found Cinco de Mayo, the very name just rolled off the tongue and didn't cause fear among U.S. beer drinkers, it sounded fun.
And so with a heavy marketing campaign Corona started promoting the Cinco de Mayo holiday around the U.S.. Americans, who are not shy about celebrating a holiday that involves dancing, eating and especially drinking, embraced the new holiday even though they had no idea what it was about. Spreading outward from the border states it now is a party all over America. People come out to celebrate Hispanic or Latino culture and nobody really cares about the actual origin as long as the beer keeps flowing.
And there you have it, the history of Cinco de Mayo in the United States. So why not enjoy, grab your sombrero, get a plate full of enchiladas, crack open a cold cerveza and join in the fun. Unless you are in Arizona because you could wind up in jail or even deported for being too Hispanic.
Here is an explanation I found:
If thirty years ago you had asked the average American what Cinco de Mayo was they would have no idea what you were talking about. Ask them today and they could tell you it's some kind of Mexican holiday. Beyond that nobody is really sure what it celebrates or why it has become popular in the U.S. so I figured I would answer a few questions.
So, what is Cinco de Mayo?
Cinco de Mayo, or in English the Fifth of May, is a holiday in Mexico celebrating the victory of the Mexican Nationals over Napoleon the III's French troops at the battle of Puebla in 1862. The attempted French invasion was thwarted and Mexico was finally free from the imperial powers of Europe.
Was Cinco de Mayo important to U.S. history?
Ooo, good question. some believe that if the French invasion had been successful it might have led to more colonization by Napoleon III in the Americas and WWI might just have been fought along the U.S./Mexico border. Nobody is really sure who the other powers, Germany and England, would have supported since neither were allies of either France or the U.S. at the time. But that is just speculation, at the time the U.S. was involved in it's own Civil War and couldn't care less what happened to Mexico.
Is Cinco de Mayo in Mexico the equivalent of the 4th of July in the U.S. ?
No, Mexico celebrates it's independence day on September 16th and Cinco de Mayo is considered a minor regional holiday. It would be the same as people celebrating January 8th or July 1st. If you are a die hard history buff you probably know the significance of those dates but for everyone else I won't make you look them up. On January 8th Andrew Jackson's troops finally defeated the British at the Battle of New Orleans and on July 1st Teddy Roosevelt led his troops up Kettle Hill in Cuba. Of course Kettle Hill didn't sound Spanish-y enough for American papers so they called it the battle of San Juan hill, and here you thought the media invented lying during Bush's war in Iraq.
So if Cinco de Mayo isn't a major holiday in Mexico how did it come to be celebrated in the U.S. ?
Ah, now here is a good question. In the 1980's foreign beer became trendy in the U.S. Go to any frat party and you would find guys slamming Moosehead, Fosters or even Grolsch lagers. Corona decided they wanted in on this so they started marketing themselves in America. But American beer companies worried about cheep suds coming North across the border and interfering with their grip on the market. So a distributor of Henieken started a rumor that the FDA found traces of human urine in Corona and spread false reports that Mexican workers had been observed peeing into the beer at the bottling plant, allegedly.
Corona's reputation had been badly damaged and even though they had proven the rumors to be outright lies and won a lawsuit they needed something to regain their losses in the beer market. They came up with a brilliant strategy, they needed a specific holiday in which people wouldn't want to drink Canadian, Australian, German, or even U.S. beers but only Mexican brew.
The logical choice was Mexico's independence day, September 16th, but there was a problem. It seemed that Seis de Septiembre was just too ethnic and hard to pronounce for most Americans and its official name Grito de Dolores was just too confusing and hard to explain. Corona decided to look around and soon found Cinco de Mayo, the very name just rolled off the tongue and didn't cause fear among U.S. beer drinkers, it sounded fun.
And so with a heavy marketing campaign Corona started promoting the Cinco de Mayo holiday around the U.S.. Americans, who are not shy about celebrating a holiday that involves dancing, eating and especially drinking, embraced the new holiday even though they had no idea what it was about. Spreading outward from the border states it now is a party all over America. People come out to celebrate Hispanic or Latino culture and nobody really cares about the actual origin as long as the beer keeps flowing.
And there you have it, the history of Cinco de Mayo in the United States. So why not enjoy, grab your sombrero, get a plate full of enchiladas, crack open a cold cerveza and join in the fun. Unless you are in Arizona because you could wind up in jail or even deported for being too Hispanic.
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Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (1874-1965)
You can understand capitalism when you realize that Thomas Edison improved the world more than Karl Marx
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Dugout Dad - Posts: 2334
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Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (1874-1965)
You can understand capitalism when you realize that Thomas Edison improved the world more than Karl Marx
Me
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (1874-1965)
You can understand capitalism when you realize that Thomas Edison improved the world more than Karl Marx
Me
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Dugout Dad - Posts: 2334
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anonlooker wrote:... when you show your American pride on someone else's Party Day. Really? Really.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-be ... 45969.html
Are Mexican-Americans (or anyone, for that matter) really offended by this type of thing? Would it have been okay if the kids wore Swiss flags, or Danish, or Japanese? wtf?
The vice-president should be thrown out and find out where his particular leftist education came from and shut them down.
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DonnieS - Premium Member
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Spazsdad wrote:The hits just keep coming.
Now we have a teacher that told a student her drawing of the American flag was "offensive" but praised a student that drew a picture of Obama.
http://www.ksbw.com/news/23512008/detail.html
wthh is going on?
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DonnieS - Premium Member
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DonnieS wrote:Spazsdad wrote:The hits just keep coming.
Now we have a teacher that told a student her drawing of the American flag was "offensive" but praised a student that drew a picture of Obama.
http://www.ksbw.com/news/23512008/detail.html
wthh is going on?
You really don't know? Here's a primer on advanced liberal psychology (i.e., why they hate America):
4 parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP8jNwvv ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dg51EiQ ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uKmDNyK ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7q13F_e ... re=related
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...or attractiveness.
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Skarp - Premium Member
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Brilliant, thanks for sharing Skarp.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (1874-1965)
You can understand capitalism when you realize that Thomas Edison improved the world more than Karl Marx
Me
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (1874-1965)
You can understand capitalism when you realize that Thomas Edison improved the world more than Karl Marx
Me
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Dugout Dad - Posts: 2334
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The newest Americans understand the value of the United States. Listen to Gabriella, she addresses the Tucson City Council at about 1 minute into the video. Tucson City Council is against SB 1070.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShkpO9Rf1bo&feature=player_embedded
then................we have this idiot..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnfKbaYTJb0&feature=player_embedded#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShkpO9Rf1bo&feature=player_embedded
then................we have this idiot..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnfKbaYTJb0&feature=player_embedded#!
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (1874-1965)
You can understand capitalism when you realize that Thomas Edison improved the world more than Karl Marx
Me
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (1874-1965)
You can understand capitalism when you realize that Thomas Edison improved the world more than Karl Marx
Me
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Dugout Dad - Posts: 2334
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DonnieS wrote:Spazsdad wrote:The hits just keep coming.
Now we have a teacher that told a student her drawing of the American flag was "offensive" but praised a student that drew a picture of Obama.
http://www.ksbw.com/news/23512008/detail.html
wthh is going on?
And this is going on too. Has been for a long time.
8 parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3LE84Sx ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBbTnU0Y ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hH7qmMp ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btCO6yz5 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdFIhsI9 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE2wHQC8 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss3dm6gA ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT6PFXOQ ... re=related
Class dismissed for now...
There is no charge for awesomeness
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...or attractiveness.
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Skarp - Premium Member
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Oh hell...since you've got me started, enjoy this from the brilliant Mark Steyn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHoNlx6L ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHoNlx6L ... re=related
There is no charge for awesomeness
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...or attractiveness.
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