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by Joe » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:32 am

softball_rules5 wrote:
Joe wrote:Any kid who participates in extracurricular activities should pay the cost of the activity (softball, band, etc...especially football). If a parent can't pay, then an opportunity to 'work' in lieu of fees should be provided to the student or parent. School administrators (with current funding) should be focusing on what they obviously aren't doing....teaching!



I am curious what you mean by "teaching"?


Let's start with a good foundation for someone to go out and make a decent living. Band, softball, cheer are all wonderful activities...and I love my football, but none will pay the rent. More importantly, the real competition is in the workplace. If our kids can't keep up w/ other kids in the world (who get better educations), then this great country of ours will fade quicker than we think.
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by softball_rules5 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:06 am

I am curious if you are a teacher yourself? This is probably not the place to have this debate, but I am just curious.
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by looking in » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:59 am

Aministrators don't teach, they spend and waste tax payers $$!!!
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by SiddFinch » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:58 pm

Joe wrote:Let's start with a good foundation for someone to go out and make a decent living. Band, softball, cheer are all wonderful activities...and I love my football, but none will pay the rent. More importantly, the real competition is in the workplace. If our kids can't keep up w/ other kids in the world (who get better educations), then this great country of ours will fade quicker than we think.


I will give you that sports have somewhat become out of control. But to say sports does not help a child develop skills that can be utilized in the "workplace", is inaccurate. I would venture to say most successful individuals have a sports background in one manner. My life was not shaped by the required 4 years of Spanish as much as it was from the football coach that made us run till we puked. 20+ years later, I remember his name, couldn't tell you the Spanish teachers name.
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by softball_rules5 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:23 pm

This was the argument I was trying to avoid. The"administrators waste tax dollars, blah, blah, blah". I would venture to guess if you have made that statement you are probably not a teacher or adminstrator. If you would like to complain about the waste of tax dollars, talk to your local govenor. Most sporting programs will run off of both budgetted funding AND the money brought in from other sports (concessions, tickets, etc.). I competely agree with sidd in that I would bet that the majority of successful people in their careers were involved in sports in some way.

In the imortal words of Jack Nicholoson - "I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a d*&^ what you think you are entitled to." - whichmeans unless youve stood in a classroom in the last 10 years dont question what we do with your tax money. I would rather you question the parent who says its ok you have a headache, stay home today
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by Joe » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:34 pm

softball_rules5 wrote: Most sporting programs will run off of both budgetted funding AND the money brought in from other sports (concessions, tickets, etc.). I competely agree with sidd in that I would bet that the majority of successful people in their careers were involved in sports in some way.


This would be a false statement. Very few extracurricular programs are break even or fund themselves completely. AND no one said that sports adversely affected our kids. I believe the question was (is)...who's should pay for it?

So....questions to your reply...

The kid who doesn't participate in sports should help pay for those that do?

AND

The schools today are doing their job teaching our kids?

..and please don't misunderstand this in any way that I'm giving parents a free pass on taking responsibility for their kid's education. My experience is from schools 20-30 years ago and what we have today. There's simply no comparison IMO
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by looking in » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:32 pm

I stand in a classroom everyday!!!!!
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by Joe » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:51 pm

looking in wrote:I stand in a classroom everyday!!!!!


And.....?
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by looking in » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:22 pm

Admin and goverment don't teach, they waste taxpayers $$!! Blah, Blah Blah! The people making the "Rules" went to school with us, we(I'm) are doing alright w/ our education, aren't you??
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by Joe » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:48 pm

looking in wrote:Admin and goverment don't teach, they waste taxpayers $$!! Blah, Blah Blah! The people making the "Rules" went to school with us, we(I'm) are doing alright w/ our education, aren't you??


It's not you and me I'm worried about...
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