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by PDad » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:36 pm

jmo wrote:Power Surge will eventually be classified as a gold team. As several teams decide to only pursue Premier, they will relinquish their gold classification and teams will be added. That is why two teams have already been added.

Yes, seven (7) of the teams with automatic Gold classification and two (2) of the teams that classified in the tournaments have PGF invitations. Several other Gold teams may earn a berth in PGF qualifiers.

So Cal ASA Yellow Book - 18U Gold Classification Tournament Rules (Page 45)
14. A team that earns a Gold classification from one of the two classification tournaments and does not accept the classification does so at the risk of having sanctions imposed as provided for by the National ASA Code.

Any opinions on whether they'll follow through with sanctions on teams that played in the classifiers and don't accept their classification?
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by DDG » Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:09 pm

PDad wrote:
Any opinions on whether they'll follow through with sanctions on teams that played in the classifiers and don't accept their classification?



Would they be declining the gold classification so they could stay and play in the 18A nats in Hemet? If that is their plan, why did they bother with the gold classifiers? Big mistake to get classified and then try to play down. ASA should not let that happen.

As far as actions taken that may impact next year, or more than not letting teams play down, not likely. ASA is still about getting teams to play.

It will be interesting at Gold States this year to see who is actually there. I know many will disagree, but I bet there will still be some very good teams following the ASA path.
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by TGISoftball » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:52 am

How did AA's qualify? I heard they used a player rostered on another team.
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by Sftbll4ever » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:55 am

TGISoftball wrote:How did AA's qualify? I heard they used a player rostered on another team.


I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they can use anyone at this point. Rosters are not frozen until first qualifier. I think that they only need to carry 8 from the qualification tournament.
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by Mystic93 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:00 am

How would anyone know that a player was rostered on another team?

This wasn't an "official red-lined roster" tournament. The roster I turned in was handwritten by my 15 year old DD...

There were teams with 19 and 20 players on them, who's to say that some of those 20 players aren't from other teams in their own organization. Not sure it matters if they were.

All that matters is who shows up in June I believe.
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by jmo » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:10 pm

A player cannot play in the classification tourney on two separate teams. If a player played during the January Classification tourney on Team A, they would not be able to play on Team B during the February classification tourney.

This occurred last year as a player who played with Victory in the first classification tourney, then quit Victory and wanted to play with the Jets in the second classification tourney and they were NOT allowed to do this.
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by PDad » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:13 pm

jmo wrote:A player cannot play in the classification tourney on two separate teams. If a player played during the January Classification tourney on Team A, they would not be able to play on Team B during the February classification tourney.

Even if the first team didn't classify?
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by jmo » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:20 pm

PDad wrote:
jmo wrote:A player cannot play in the classification tourney on two separate teams. If a player played during the January Classification tourney on Team A, they would not be able to play on Team B during the February classification tourney.

Even if the first team didn't classify?


Don't think it matters but if the team she played with in January was still trying to classify in February as I believe is the case here, I am sure this would be a no-no. Definitely some questons for David Marin to answer.
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by PDad » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:04 pm

jmo wrote:
PDad wrote:
jmo wrote:A player cannot play in the classification tourney on two separate teams. If a player played during the January Classification tourney on Team A, they would not be able to play on Team B during the February classification tourney.

Even if the first team didn't classify?

Don't think it matters but if the team she played with in January was still trying to classify in February, I am sure this would be a no-no. Definitely some questons for David Marin to answer.

The main concern is to keep a player from helping more than 1 team classify. They should be able to play for a different team in the second classifier as long as their first team didn't classify.

18U Gold Classification Tournament Rules
4. Managers of Gold classified teams may not participate in the classification tournaments.
7. Teams may enter both classification tournaments; however, if a team classifies in the first
tournament that team and players cannot participate in the second tournament.
10. Manager and coaches may participate with one team only.
11. Players may participate with one team only.

Rules 4 & 7 specifically address keeping members of classified teams from helping another team classify. I think rules 10 & 11 are intended to keep people from helping multiple teams classify in the same tournament. JMHO
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by kingskid » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:53 am

How could AA"s coach let this happen. Did he not check the rules? This is a pretty black and white rule. Sorry but if I was a player on that team I would be UNHAPPY..
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