Travel vs School?

[looking in]

slapper,
He said it was the first workout. I don't think schools can have out of season events on weekends!?!? Could be wrong!

[DLauck]

looking in,

For clarity purposes:

1) From the heart of Indy

2) We've been working out for 3 months. This past Saturday was our first Saturday workout

3) There are no workouts on Sunday's per IHSAA

4) I haven't pitched, tossed or caught a ball from a player

5) I know some girls played in an indoor tourney in Ft. Wayne this past weekend with their travel teams

6) Some other players had practice with their travel teams this past Saturday morning

7) From March 8, 2010 to June 14, 2010 the girls are NOT to participate in anything related to travel ball

I hope this helps clear some things up. And I hope there are people on this site who can help out if I'm wrong about anything.

[DLauck]

DLauck
Be sure to keep in mind over use injuries. Especially for pitchers.
My own daughter's. (Not a pitcher)current schedule includes workouts with travel team twice a week, fielding and batting spread across 4 days a week with her varsity team....catching for her varsity pitchers once or twice a week....all on top of 4 days of fitness training each week.
And its only January.
I have spoken with the coaches of each team and let them know that she will let them know what practices she may need to pass on each week.All are in agreement.

Coach11,

Your daughter's schedule looks similar to many of the players I coach. When the girls are this busy it's important that everyone is communicating and on the same page; this will definitely teach your daughter the importance of collaboration. Is your daughter planning to play in college?

[slapperdad]

slapper,
He said it was the first workout. I don't think schools can have out of season events on weekends!?!? Could be wrong!

He is correct, the only thing the IHSAA By-Laws say are no Sundays.

[slapperdad]

Just to clarify:
15-2
During School Year Out-of-Season

15-2.6
Open Facility Program
An open facility program is a program in which the gymnasium, playing field or other school facilities are open to all students who attend the school, or a feeder school of the school sponsoring the program, for participation on a voluntary basis. Specific equipment related to a particular sport, i.e. balls, goals, nets, etc., may be used.
a. Open facility sessions for a particular sport may be conducted three times per week. However, they may be held more frequently within a month of the date of the official first practice in that sport.
b. Member school coaches may supervise the program, communicate with students and offer correction provided that:
(1) they do not organize teams or assign individuals to teams;
(2) the program is open to all students of the member school;
(3) attendance and participation is voluntary and not required by the member school coach for
membership on a team.
(4) the coaching staff may offer instruction and work directly with a maximum of two athletes at a time.

9-13
There shall be no interschool athletic contests, school practices or school sponsored clinics held on Sunday. Calling one or more team members together on Sunday for studying scouting reports, viewing films of games, any kind of participation, etc. will be considered a violation of this rule.

Q. 15-40 May students participate in an open facility program, sponsored by a member school, on Sunday, during the school year?
A. No, students may not participate in an open facility program, sponsored by a member school,
on Sunday, during the school year. (Rule 9-13)


These are direct cut and paste from the IHSAA.

[Coach11]

Coach11
I hope the HS coach isn't around for these "fielding and batting" events at the HS. That breaks IHSAA rules! 2 workouts a week for the TB team? That's crazy this time of year! For what? The TB coach can't touch them in 5-6 weeks and there is nothing worth playing in right now! Unless you count the Sportzone World championships!! Which much to my dismay, we have one left we got talked into! Love those 3-4am games!! So much gained there!!!

He is.....but they are "voluntary" workouts. Anyone in the school district is invited to attend.....whether you play for the varsity, JV, modified, or are just looking for some extracaricular during the winter months. It's stretching a fine line, as those who actually attend with regularity are predominently the varsity players. Hitting instruction is private and off of school grounds.
TB workouts are just part of the program. They played in an indoor tournament last weekend.....may join a few friendlies before the school season starts...but "off season" workouts are one of the reasons she left her previous team after last summer.

[Coach11]

Coach11,

Is your daughter planning to play in college?

Yes. She's got dreams of heading out west to play with the "big girls".....but I'm sure she'd be just as happy to play with a school closer to this coast (We're in NY) so long as it's competetive.

[snoop]

My dd's coach got called by the IHSAA and the team had to stop hitting at an indoor facility w/her just watching!! During the week(2 times a week) and off season and off campus! Where does dlauck coach? Alot of transfers about to happen!! Hey bucketboy and killer!! finally jumped in!

[softball_rules5]

While many of you may have more experience with the whole TB vs. HS ball one thing I can tell you is that if your DD has any intentions of playing beyond HS, there are many coaches that will frown upon not playing. I know some have mentioned that their daughters have skipped HS and were still able to play collegiately. However, I have several friends that coach at that level from the D1 level all the way down to JC. I have had this same conversation with them and the majority have all had the same opinion. Even if you dont agree with the way the HS coach does things and the talent level isnt the same, a player still needs show that level of committment. If your not willing to play for the HS it sends a few mixed messages: Are you above the system (are you better than everyone else)? Can you listen to a coach whose ideas and teachings may be different than those you have heard? Are you willing to try new things even if you dont agree? Are you willing to be a part of a team even when its not the most successful? Are you willing to accept a role that you may not be comfortable with?

All of these are things that can be answered by playing for the HS coach. Now I am not oblivious that recruiting takes place in the summer. However, many coaches dont want stats when they call the HS coach, they want to know what kind of kid you are in the classroom, at school, and on the field. The TB coach can usually only answer one of those. Just my opinion on the subject.

[bucketboy]

My dd's coach got called by the IHSAA and the team had to stop hitting at an indoor facility w/her just watching!! During the week(2 times a week) and off season and off campus! Where does dlauck coach? Alot of transfers about to happen!! Hey bucketboy and killer!! finally jumped in!

DLauck is the coach at Roncalli and is doing a wonderful job IMHO with his program. Cares about the kids, supports their travel efforts, and understands how it all works so keep up the good work coach and thanks for sharing here on the bucket.

Snoop what took you so long? HA

Funny you mentioned the transfer thing as I have received a few phone calls and emails recently about that topic...............

My ultimate question is with all the pay to play talk going on in several schools are we a year away from the travel season starting in April instead of June?