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Gold classification in So Cal

by Nzane » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:44 pm

NumeroUno wrote:No worries, thank you for the help.

I will be out at Diamond valley this weekend posting results. I will be at the 3 field snack bar. Come by and give me the results of your game and try a pulled pork BBQ burger ;)



Coo. I will come by and say whats up. We play at noon. See you then......
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by Mystic93 » Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:48 am

Here was the updated Bracket from David with ASA.
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by Surehitter » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:55 am

My guess is these are the teams in S.CA that were left out of the other event that is happening instead of Gold Nationals ? I don't see any of the real powerhouse teams or do they not have to go to this if they received Gold rating when this was held last year.
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by it'sjustagame » Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:26 pm

No, that’s not it. The teams that made it to Gold Nationals last year automatically qualify as a Gold team for this year.

That’s why you don’t see Batbusters, CA Cruisers, Worth Firecrackers, the Sorcerer teams, Explosion Gold, etc.

I think there were about 12 or 13 so cal teams that went to nationals last year.
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by it'sjustagame » Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:48 pm

Surehitter wrote:My guess is these are the teams in S.CA that were left out of the other event that is happening instead of Gold Nationals ? I don't see any of the real powerhouse teams or do they not have to go to this if they received Gold rating when this was held last year.



So here are the CA gold teams that went to nationals in 2009 that don't have to re-qualify for gold this year.

1. OC Batbusters - Gary Hanning Anaheim CA
2. So Cal Choppers - Gary Fausett Valencia CA
3. San Diego Renegades - Duane Tillett San Diego CA
4. Worth Firecrackers - Tony Rico Hunington Beach CA
5. So Cal Pumas - John Nourse Ventura CA
6. Corona Angels-Marty - Marty Tyson Corona CA
7. Lady Magic - Jim Carda Elk Grove CA
8. So Cal Athletics - Bruce Richardson Upland CA
9. Sorcerer Gold-Phil - Bill Sparrey Vallejo CA
10. The Next Level - Kirt Winter Encinitas CA
11. Valley Breeze - Tom Sotelo Granada Hills CA
12. CA Cruisers Gold - Mel Sievers Mission Viejo CA
13 Explosion Gold - Bret Denio Tustin CA
14. Nor Cal Shockers - Paul Buccellato Martinez CA
15. So Cal Breakers - Brant Beddow Encinitas CA
16.Sorcerer Gold-Pete - Pete Aguayo Volcano CA
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by Sftbll4ever » Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:59 pm

it'sjustagame wrote:
Surehitter wrote:My guess is these are the teams in S.CA that were left out of the other event that is happening instead of Gold Nationals ? I don't see any of the real powerhouse teams or do they not have to go to this if they received Gold rating when this was held last year.



So here are the CA gold teams that went to nationals in 2009 that don't have to re-qualify for gold this year.

1. OC Batbusters - Gary Hanning Anaheim CA
2. So Cal Choppers - Gary Fausett Valencia CA
3. San Diego Renegades - Duane Tillett San Diego CA
4. Worth Firecrackers - Tony Rico Hunington Beach CA
5. So Cal Pumas - John Nourse Ventura CA
6. Corona Angels-Marty - Marty Tyson Corona CA
7. Lady Magic - Jim Carda Elk Grove CA
8. So Cal Athletics - Bruce Richardson Upland CA
9. Sorcerer Gold-Phil - Bill Sparrey Vallejo CA
10. The Next Level - Kirt Winter Encinitas CA
11. Valley Breeze - Tom Sotelo Granada Hills CA
12. CA Cruisers Gold - Mel Sievers Mission Viejo CA
13 Explosion Gold - Bret Denio Tustin CA
14. Nor Cal Shockers - Paul Buccellato Martinez CA
15. So Cal Breakers - Brant Beddow Encinitas CA
16.Sorcerer Gold-Pete - Pete Aguayo Volcano CA


So how many of those teams are going to go to Gold Nationals or to Premier?
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by Sftbll4ever » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:16 pm

I still think these classification tournaments are a waste of time and money. If they are having Gold Western/Eastern/Northern/Southern Nationals, who cares how many people say they are gold. It's just the same as all the other divisions now.

Did it get clarified at the meeting if the teams that win in, lets say Western, get an automatic bid to Gold Nationals next year like in the other divisions?
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by All-American SB » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:30 pm

If the Gold Nationals winner doesn't get an automatic bid to the next year's Gold Nationals, I would believe that a Regional winner doesn't get a bid either. Maybe they don't have to re-classify. Not much of an incentive though. Could this be just another money maker for ASA?
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by Sftbll4ever » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:37 pm

That's what I am thinking. Losing teams to Premier so lets get more money some other way.
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by jmo » Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:45 pm

Spazsdad wrote:I think I count 5 on this list that are not on the Premier list.


Actually, there are only 3 teams - TNL, Nor Cal Shockers, Sorcerers Pete. Sorcerers Pete is not on it because they will only invite one team from any one organization. Therefore teams like Firecrackers - Ristow/Shults and Corona Angels Phil do not have invites and must qualify for Premier. Sorcerers Pete is now Sorcerers Blue and is coached by Phil Mumma and staff.

ASA started this Classification last year under many complaints from coaches. It only reduces the number of "Gold" teams by around 10-15 teams. Teams that attend ASA Nationals are automatically considered a "gold classified" team.

If teams that are playing Premier this year decide to go back to ASA next year, the classification tournament could be real interesting in 2011 as all the big name teams would have to reclassify as Gold. Of course, Premier seems to have things moving along rather smoothly so maybe teams will not be going back - only time will tell.
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