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by NumeroUno » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:08 pm

Have you ever heard of a player who was on a full ride at college and then months later the coach told her that she would have to stay there during the summer to establish residency so the school can save some money. Once she is a resident they don't have to pay the higher out of state tuition cost.
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by Dugout Dad » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:20 pm

So do they want the athlete to rent an apartment during the summer or stay on campus? If so, who pays for it?
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by jonriv » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:22 pm

Not sure if they would meet most state residency requirements- University of RI as an example http://www.ribghe.org/residency1.pdf/
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by anonlooker » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:39 pm

Some of the camps my kid has been to, there have been players assisting the coaches, and I always assumed that that was part of their scholarship deal... that they might be getting residency at the same time never really occurred to me.

Residency requirements likely vary by school, but it seems like a logical move. My only concern with this scenario is that the college coach didn't make this clear during scholarship negotiations, as it's not exactly a minor consideration.
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by GIMNEPIWO » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:53 am

There are also other issues that come up when a child becomes the resident of another state ... Most likely they would not be covered under your auto or health insurance plans ... They may not be a deduction on your taxes any longer ... If they have a vehicle with them, that would have to be registered in that state .... on and on ...
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by Imperial SB Dad » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:03 pm

Years ago I applied for a graduate assistant position at the University of Michigan and asked about getting residency to reduce tuition in the second year. I was told that I had to somehow prove that I was going to stay in the state of Michigan after graduation. There was no way to prove that so no way to get residency.

In the state of California you just have to prove you have lived here one year to get reduced tuition. This is true at the community college level at least. Also if you are an out of state student your car registration has to be changed over after 10 days of living in the state. This is a constant fight for any out of state student with the CHP here on our campus and a state law for anyone moving to California.
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by AlwaysImprove » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:09 pm

I have actually heard this before. It was put differently. They indicated that if we worked with them to establish residency it would free up several thousands of dollars it would help the team with future budgets, and would be much appreciated.

When I was young and considering going to Cal school, I was paying for myself, I would have established residency to save some money. So, I considered it the same when the coach brought it up.

I do not think it is common, but it is not unheard.
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by MTR » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:08 pm

NumeroUno wrote:Have you ever heard of a player who was on a full ride at college and then months later the coach told her that she would have to stay there during the summer to establish residency so the school can save some money. Once she is a resident they don't have to pay the higher out of state tuition cost.


While almost every state school I've ever heard of are required to provide an lower tuition for in-state students, I find it hard to believe there is actually a "real" savings here.

Just how much do tuitions costs, I mean cash out of pocket costs a school? And I'm not talking about the on again, off again "stipend" that may or may not be applied this coming year or alleged loss of income had another paying student occupied the desk and bed.

Really, just how much cash does it cost a school?
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by GIMNEPIWO » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:20 am

MTR wrote:
NumeroUno wrote:Have you ever heard of a player who was on a full ride at college and then months later the coach told her that she would have to stay there during the summer to establish residency so the school can save some money. Once she is a resident they don't have to pay the higher out of state tuition cost.


While almost every state school I've ever heard of are required to provide an lower tuition for in-state students, I find it hard to believe there is actually a "real" savings here.

Just how much do tuitions costs, I mean cash out of pocket costs a school? And I'm not talking about the on again, off again "stipend" that may or may not be applied this coming year or alleged loss of income had another paying student occupied the desk and bed.

Really, just how much cash does it cost a school?


Could be more of what ANON stated: "Some of the camps my kid has been to, there have been players assisting the coaches, and I always assumed that that was part of their scholarship deal... " I know a player working for her coach, but as work study deal, not scholarship and not over the summer ... But that seems possible to keep them around as go-fers, field & equipt. maintenance, help with camps etc. ...
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by SnocatzDad » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:12 am

MTR wrote:While almost every state school I've ever heard of are required to provide an lower tuition for in-state students, I find it hard to believe there is actually a "real" savings here.

Just how much do tuitions costs, I mean cash out of pocket costs a school? And I'm not talking about the on again, off again "stipend" that may or may not be applied this coming year or alleged loss of income had another paying student occupied the desk and bed.

Really, just how much cash does it cost a school?


What happens in some cases is that for every state resident that the college has attending they get a stipend from the state government that can be a significant dollar amount, but usually isn't as large as the difference between in and out of state tuition. So it can be real dollars to the school that affect budgeting. As opposed to the school just choosing to charge more or less for tuition only to turn around and forgive either amount in scholarship.

You can argue that state schools and state government are all one entity, but they are discreet enough to have seperate budgets.
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