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by DonnieS » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:16 am

dumbbutnotstupid wrote:
Totally agree, IF the kids struggling. If it anit broke, why fix it?


I am always pushing the kids to work more. How do you define 'struggling' - unless you are Bustos, or batting 1000 and scoring every at-bat, you better be struggling to get better.

As soon as you quit struggling to improve, some one is going to pass you up.
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by dumbbutnotstupid » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:26 am

DonnieS wrote:
dumbbutnotstupid wrote:
Totally agree, IF the kids struggling. If it anit broke, why fix it?


I am always pushing the kids to work more. How do you define 'struggling' - unless you are Bustos, or batting 1000 and scoring every at-bat, you better be struggling to get better.

As soon as you quit struggling to improve, some one is going to pass you up.


How does working more translate into changing instructors? (and working "more" is an opinion, which varys)

May I ask what do you consider "struggling?" Kid goes 4-4 with 4 lasers, did they struggle that day?All players do struggle at some time,but NOT all the time.
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by Sam » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:43 am

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Sam wrote:Nice try...attempting to change your original argument to fit the point you failed to make.....very nice. Next time you might try actually to comment on subjects you actually have a smidgeon on knowledge about....it will save you the embarrassment you are now experiencing.


Where did I change from my original argument. Please explain?

What subjects would you like to converse on?


Your original post reponding to my post about top Gold coaches:

"Wow...I must be on the other side of the fence but many "Gold" coaches either firmly suggest that the player takes lessons from them or "pushes" them to a certain coach, which in return they get referal fees."

You couldn't provide a single example of a top Gold coach who practices what you are preaching.

When pressed, you attempted to change your argument....to be that I was pushing players to obtain instruction from Rico....

Just pick something you know about....anything.....but if you come on this board spewing misinformation, you will be called on it.
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by dumbbutnotstupid » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:58 am

Sam wrote:
dumbbutnotstupid wrote:
Sam wrote:Nice try...attempting to change your original argument to fit the point you failed to make.....very nice. Next time you might try actually to comment on subjects you actually have a smidgeon on knowledge about....it will save you the embarrassment you are now experiencing.


Where did I change from my original argument. Please explain?

What subjects would you like to converse on?


Your original post reponding to my post about top Gold coaches:

"Wow...I must be on the other side of the fence but many "Gold" coaches either firmly suggest that the player takes lessons from them or "pushes" them to a certain coach, which in return they get referal fees."

You couldn't provide a single example of a top Gold coach who practices what you are preaching.

When pressed, you attempted to change your argument....to be that I was pushing players to obtain instruction from Rico....

Just pick something you know about....anything.....but if you come on this board spewing misinformation, you will be called on it.


Your opinion is different from mine, fine. Did provide you but you disagree ,fine. Your word is not law, even if you think so. Doesnt make you right, doesnt make me wrong. I never attacked you personally, and you make it personal with your cheap shot comments.
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by Sam » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:08 am

Telling you that you don't know what you are talkiing about when, indeed, you don't know what you are talking about is not a personal attack...its a fact. If I wanted to launch a personal attack, I would call you names.

These guys either do what you are saying or they don't. Your opinion regarding whether they do it or not irrelevant. It is a question of fact....and you are incorrect. Your opinion that you are right doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.
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by dumbbutnotstupid » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:18 am

Sam wrote:Telling you that you don't know what you are talkiing about when, indeed, you don't know what you are talking about is not a personal attack...its a fact. If I wanted to launch a personal attack, I would call you names.

These guys either do what you are saying or they don't. Your opinion regarding whether they do it or not irrelevant. It is a question of fact....and you are incorrect. Your opinion that you are right doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.


You say they dont, and that is based on your opinion, which is, sorry to tell you, not fact! that you "know" them proves what? Nothing. I know them too. Very well in fact. And if you go back to my first post, I said gold coaches, not top gold coaches. But whatever, we are done.
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by Sam » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:34 am

dumbbutnotstupid wrote:
Sam wrote:Telling you that you don't know what you are talkiing about when, indeed, you don't know what you are talking about is not a personal attack...its a fact. If I wanted to launch a personal attack, I would call you names.

These guys either do what you are saying or they don't. Your opinion regarding whether they do it or not irrelevant. It is a question of fact....and you are incorrect. Your opinion that you are right doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.


You say they dont, and that is based on your opinion, which is, sorry to tell you, not fact! that you "know" them proves what? Nothing. I know them too. Very well in fact. And if you go back to my first post, I said gold coaches, not top gold coaches. But whatever, we are done.


You were done before you started....you just didn't know it.
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by OCTravelCoach » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:17 pm

Sam wrote:
dumbbutnotstupid wrote:
Sam wrote:Telling you that you don't know what you are talkiing about when, indeed, you don't know what you are talking about is not a personal attack...its a fact. If I wanted to launch a personal attack, I would call you names.

These guys either do what you are saying or they don't. Your opinion regarding whether they do it or not irrelevant. It is a question of fact....and you are incorrect. Your opinion that you are right doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.


You say they dont, and that is based on your opinion, which is, sorry to tell you, not fact! that you "know" them proves what? Nothing. I know them too. Very well in fact. And if you go back to my first post, I said gold coaches, not top gold coaches. But whatever, we are done.


You were done before you started....you just didn't know it.


In communications, verbal or written, these are known as 'declarations' and observations.

Declarations are based on proven facts. "It's hot in here and my thermometer now says it's 98 degrees," is an example of a declaration.

An obersvation would be, "It's hot in here." Well to other people, it may or may not be hot. The observation is based on personal opinion of how that individual is experiencing the event or conditions.

What we have here, as Strother Martin put it in Cool Hand Luke is "a failure to communicate."
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by ocdad » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:41 pm

OCTravelCoach wrote:What we have here, as Strother Martin put it in Cool Hand Luke is "a failure to communicate."


Does he say that before or after he eats all those hard boiled eggs, boy I love that movie. :lol:
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by Sam » Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:00 pm

A declaration is not a fact...it is simply a statement and has no basis in fact or fiction. It is simply making a statement...such as....The Declaration of Independence...which was a statement...not of fact...but of want.
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