rukidding wrote:The Xtreme coach called and emailed almost daily to get PGF to give them an at large berth.
The truth of this entire issue is that both players had already told Shannon that they would not be staying with Xtreme after this season. Each player had informed Shannon that they would not make the move to Killer Bees (where Xteme will play next season) as they were going to tryout for TAZ. Both players had intentions of going to PGF with Xtreme but Shannon implied to his team and to all of us that both players had left his team which was not the case. This casued the parents of Xtreme to push Shannon to remove these players from Xtreme which he did.
They did not quit.
After they were told that they were no longer a part of Xtreme both players were picked up by Team Arizona.
These are the facts.
Those may be the facts, but they're irrelevent. It doesn't matter if a Coach calls every day to get an invite. Either there's an invite or there's not. It doesn't matter if players quit or were removed. Either they are on a Champ. Play roster or they're not.
It sounds like this was a timing issue. Team A did not earn a berth at the PGF qualifier, and since that team had no further plans to qualify, players are automatically released as far as PGF is concerned. After they are legitimately added as pickup players, Team A receives an at-large berth. It appears this was a case not covered by the PGF ruleset, so the Board gets to vote.
As CULater and PDad said, PGF could consider clearing up the confusion next year by stating that players aren't released until all berths have been confirmed. That would seem logical, but there are probably a few downsides. In any event, it's up to PGF.
Anyone talking about how existing players "feel" when a team adds pickup players or wanting to limit the reasons for adding pickup players, should whine on another forum. That has nothing to do with this thread.
Lastly, the "Let em play ... it's for the girls" comments are ridiculous. There HAVE to be rules. You can't just say "let em play". Notice the "let em play" folks are typically those wanting to disregard rules (like parents on the fielding team when IPs are being called).