Looks like pools are up

[NumeroUno]

I hadn't really looked at all the teams that are coming until now and all I can say is wow!! You better bring your A game because I just don't see any real easy games.

18HS
http://premiergirlsfastpitch.com/schedu ... 8upool.pdf

16U
http://premiergirlsfastpitch.com/schedu ... 6upool.pdf

14U
http://premiergirlsfastpitch.com/schedu ... 4upool.pdf

[CharlieHough]

Pool games results have no effect on the elimination bracket

[rdelawder12]

Pool games results have no effect on the elimination bracket

Correct, it's a National tournament so it's a blind draw. That's good for all the unsigned/unverballed kids to play in the pools in front of the coaches, as this will be the last national for all the girls that signed thier LOI's, as all coaches will be playing their best 10 every game once bracket play starts!
Good luck to everyone!

[4th & Forever]

Pool games results have no effect on the elimination bracket

Unless you draw a team for bracket that you play in pool

[PDad]

Pool games results have no effect on the elimination bracket

Correct, it's a National tournament so it's a blind draw.

ASA Class A Nats use a combination of pool play results and region protection in their blind draws. Seeding the brackets based on pool play results for 18G is one of the issues the PGF founders had with ASA.

That's good for all the unsigned/unverballed kids to play in the pools in front of the coaches, as this will be the last national for all the girls that signed thier LOI's, as all coaches will be playing their best 10 every game once bracket play starts!

This is exactly why the PGF/Gold coaches didn't want pool play results to count.

[NumeroUno]

Pool games results have no effect on the elimination bracket

true and everyone will still need there A game for the entire tourney

[jonriv]

Pool games results have no effect on the elimination bracket

Correct, it's a National tournament so it's a blind draw.

ASA Class A Nats use a combination of pool play results and region protection in their blind draws. Seeding the brackets based on pool play results for 18G is one of the issues the PGF founders had with ASA.

That's good for all the unsigned/unverballed kids to play in the pools in front of the coaches, as this will be the last national for all the girls that signed thier LOI's, as all coaches will be playing their best 10 every game once bracket play starts!

This is exactly why the PGF/Gold coaches didn't want pool play results to count.

Not that I think it is the best way of picking brackets/seeding, but why was there an issue with using bracket play for seeding? How is blind seeding any better or fairer? Why have pool games at all- maybe it should be round-robin and then elimination brackets? Just curious.....

[Trophy Hunter]

Pool games results have no effect on the elimination bracket

Correct, it's a National tournament so it's a blind draw.

ASA Class A Nats use a combination of pool play results and region protection in their blind draws. Seeding the brackets based on pool play results for 18G is one of the issues the PGF founders had with ASA.

That's good for all the unsigned/unverballed kids to play in the pools in front of the coaches, as this will be the last national for all the girls that signed thier LOI's, as all coaches will be playing their best 10 every game once bracket play starts!

This is exactly why the PGF/Gold coaches didn't want pool play results to count.

Not that I think it is the best way of picking brackets/seeding, but why was there an issue with using bracket play for seeding? How is blind seeding any better or fairer? Why have pool games at all- maybe it should be round-robin and then elimination brackets? Just curious.....

I'm sure you meant "an issue with using POOL play for seeding?"

By extension, why have these "pool" games at all? These teams have been showcasing all summer. It's like travel ball borrowed the rec ball credo of "Everyone plays."

[ontheblack]

Rec teams dont roster 20 kids.

[Trophy Hunter]

Rec teams dont roster 20 kids.

So? It's still the same "Everybody plays" mentality.