weekend4trvl wrote:YB...you concerns are valid. What should scare all of is once the federal government changes course there's no turning back.
But this is the will of the majority and what I learned in civics class is that in a democracy the majority rules.
Joe wrote:GIMNEPIWO wrote:Joe ... with all due respect ... remove your hand from your weiner ...
A response of someone who has run out of ideas...
Economics 101: Survival of the fittest!
No one wants to hear the crying and whining about your business. Either buck up, get to work or get the hell out of the way. And realize this...old automakers, nurseries or whatever should realize when it's time to go to pasture. It was good run...now let it go.
weekend4trvl wrote:After 8 years of "W" what are the growth industries.
Tattoo parlors
Topless clubs
Drug dealing
Human traffiking
Foreclosures
Car repo's
Identity theft
Nice job George Bush
carolinafan wrote:...what a great thing Clinton did for these two women.
Skarp wrote:carolinafan wrote:...what a great thing Clinton did for these two women.
lmao. Yeah, Clinton has a long history of doing great things for women. Not to mention North Korea. Hell, if I wanted something from Dear Leader I would send Clinton too. He gave them the bomb...what are a few journalists in return?
And I have no doubt that you were impressed that he didn't speak at the news conference. Talk about a guy who loves to hear himself talk.
As far as those journalists are concerned, there is NO WAY that we should have sent high profile diplomats, much less a former president, over there to secure their return. It is, once again, rewarding bad behavior...the only strategy that liberals are capable of where international relations are concerned. These buffoons are outclassed by tinpot dictators. The Russians and Chinese will eat their collective lunches (like they always have, and currently are).
As far as responsibility for the state of the economy goes, I'll be the last one to defend Bush. He spent money and grew government like a drunken sailor (i.e., like a liberal). But the fact is that the lending/subprime mortgage crisis (and thus the economic meltdown) resulted directly from the relaxation of lending standards, which in turn resulted directly from political pressure exerted by liberals on lending institutions to "level the playing field" and create vehicles for low income home ownership. Such institutions were perfectly happy to do so, given that a) the federal government (principally via Fannie Mae), aka taxpayers, guaranteed repayment of the lousy loans, and b) they were allowed to create complex securitizations of loan aggregations (effectively hiding the tenuousness of the underlying income streams) and sell them in the securities markets. Attempts by conservative lawmakers to audit/investigate the lending practices of Sallie Mae were consistently stonewalled by liberal lawmakers and the ridiculously overpaid liberal bureaucrats running Sallie Mae. You don't need Fox News to tell you this...there are boatloads of direct tapes of congressional committee hearings proving it quite clearly. Search YouTube and enjoy.
carolinafan wrote:You can spin what Clinton and the so called liberals did for the two journalist any way you want. If they were your wife, mother, daughter, or sister, you would be praising Bill for doing a great job getting them home. I am unaware of the quid pro quo that took place here.....but then again, my mind has been on softball the last month with the close of the 08-09 season. Let's face it, we are never going to agree on politics, so let's stick to softball. Too many Gold teams out there drawing from the pool....what say you skarp, joe, blueballs?
weekend4trvl wrote:Skarp wrote:carolinafan wrote:...what a great thing Clinton did for these two women.
lmao. Yeah, Clinton has a long history of doing great things for women. Not to mention North Korea. Hell, if I wanted something from Dear Leader I would send Clinton too. He gave them the bomb...what are a few journalists in return?
And I have no doubt that you were impressed that he didn't speak at the news conference. Talk about a guy who loves to hear himself talk.
As far as those journalists are concerned, there is NO WAY that we should have sent high profile diplomats, much less a former president, over there to secure their return. It is, once again, rewarding bad behavior...the only strategy that liberals are capable of where international relations are concerned. These buffoons are outclassed by tinpot dictators. The Russians and Chinese will eat their collective lunches (like they always have, and currently are).
As far as responsibility for the state of the economy goes, I'll be the last one to defend Bush. He spent money and grew government like a drunken sailor (i.e., like a liberal). But the fact is that the lending/subprime mortgage crisis (and thus the economic meltdown) resulted directly from the relaxation of lending standards, which in turn resulted directly from political pressure exerted by liberals on lending institutions to "level the playing field" and create vehicles for low income home ownership. Such institutions were perfectly happy to do so, given that a) the federal government (principally via Fannie Mae), aka taxpayers, guaranteed repayment of the lousy loans, and b) they were allowed to create complex securitizations of loan aggregations (effectively hiding the tenuousness of the underlying income streams) and sell them in the securities markets. Attempts by conservative lawmakers to audit/investigate the lending practices of Sallie Mae were consistently stonewalled by liberal lawmakers and the ridiculously overpaid liberal bureaucrats running Sallie Mae. You don't need Fox News to tell you this...there are boatloads of direct tapes of congressional committee hearings proving it quite clearly. Search YouTube and enjoy.
Can't believe we've been talking party politics for a week before you finally jumped in.
carolinafan wrote:You can spin what Clinton and the so called liberals did for the two journalist any way you want. If they were your wife, mother, daughter, or sister, you would be praising Bill for doing a great job getting them home. I am unaware of the quid pro quo that took place here.....but then again, my mind has been on softball the last month with the close of the 08-09 season. Let's face it, we are never going to agree on politics, so let's stick to softball. Too many Gold teams out there drawing from the pool....what say you skarp, joe, blueballs?
