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Player Leaving Mid Season!

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by Sam » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:30 am

Phantom wrote:
Sam wrote:I have also seen coaches get rid of attitude players/parents by limiting the playing time of the young lady....think about that one.



so you dont think its ok to leave mid season if this is happening?


Uhh....no. You fix yours or your kid's attitude and try to repair your relationship with the coach and the team. It might make you or your kid a better person.
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by Fever98#6 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:32 am

What an interesting thread..you would have thought it would have ended after 2 replies..?
Parents acting like they are owed something after leaving a team..?? LOL and then calling out coaches...even funnier..guess it just brings up the old saying to the bitching parents..
" If you think you can do better..? "...and to say.." well, the coach turned into a butt hole, fees changed..you don't know the whole story..?"..the answer would be...So ...what's your point? You have a job don't you ?
If your new boss is an ass and they change your work load and hours. ? 2 choices..?
Leave or suck it up, but if you leave, you don't get anything back, no , not even your stapler.
Who knows, if you leave, maybe it will be better ? But if you think you are going to find that perfect world, you are in for a long search.

Better get ready for another real world fact, complaining parents..there are a lot more girls than there are quality clubs and the softball world is close knit, even in a big city. Keep up your reputation as a complainer and you will be signing your DD up for the chess club. No team wants a cancer at the kid or parent level. If you think you can get away with it because you think your kid is a great player, you are wrong.

Coaches want players and PARENTS that are committed to the team and the organization no matter what the hurdles that come in the road.
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by Sam » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:34 am

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gripnrip wrote:last post for me on this topic, people cant comprehend what they read. The problem on this site is the exact problem on our softball fields. A bunch of wannabe dads that think they know it all when it comes to the game, pitching, hitting, etc.. The same dads that I feel play on teams for their own gratification, not they're DDs. Take "Ace" for instance, probably has coached his DD forever, she does'nt know how to play for someone else...I'm sure he will hold her hand through life. Then he leaves a pornographic message on a girls softball site..these are the coaches I'm talking about. Where I come from we call them tuna fish, they swim in packs and all think alike, never on their own or outside the box. Then there's "Sam"... chicken of the sea, another tuna. Just agrees with everyone else, sits w/ all the dads, and complains about the same things. The funny thing is I never mentioned one thing about MY daughter leaving any team, in fact she has NEVER quit on a any team since she's been playing. Probably to complicated for some of you to understand because your too busy "swimming w/ the pack".


well said


Yes....another pearl of wisdom from a 12U parent. They are very informative when you can keep them from wiping their hole in the ground.
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by Coach11 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:56 am

Phantom wrote:
Coach11 wrote:Doob....following a commitiment through....even when you are unhappy to have to do so..... is EXACTLY what being a man is all about. If your daughter stinks, and isn't getting the playing time you think she deserves....suck it up for a season.



WRONG, why stick around and waste time and money? does that make ANY sense?


Because that is what you promised to do when you made your commitment.

Phantom wrote: If the team doesnt need the kid (except for dues) that is pretty selfish on the coaches behalf


This is information the parent should have garnered when researching various teams.



Phantom wrote:EXACTLY what being a man is all about? NO, its EXACTLY what being a GOOD PARENT is all about


The good parenting part comes in before you make such a commitment, and while following through with that commitment. Yanking precious from a team midseason because she isn't good enough to start, is the opitome of poor parenting.
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by Phantom » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:41 am

Coach11 wrote:
Phantom wrote:
Coach11 wrote:Doob....following a commitiment through....even when you are unhappy to have to do so..... is EXACTLY what being a man is all about. If your daughter stinks, and isn't getting the playing time you think she deserves....suck it up for a season.



WRONG, why stick around and waste time and money? does that make ANY sense?


Because that is what you promised to do when you made your commitment.

Phantom wrote: If the team doesnt need the kid (except for dues) that is pretty selfish on the coaches behalf


This is information the parent should have garnered when researching various teams.



Phantom wrote:EXACTLY what being a man is all about? NO, its EXACTLY what being a GOOD PARENT is all about


The good parenting part comes in before you make such a commitment, and while following through with that commitment. Yanking precious from a team midseason because she isn't good enough to start, is the opitome of poor parenting.



must be the "opitome" of bad coaching if you pick up a kid who is "not good enough"

and who the hell goes into something to pay a bunch of money and spend a bunch of time to get nothing out of it? nobody makes that promise

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by Ace » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:28 pm

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gripnrip wrote:last post for me on this topic, people cant comprehend what they read. The problem on this site is the exact problem on our softball fields. A bunch of wannabe dads that think they know it all when it comes to the game, pitching, hitting, etc.. The same dads that I feel play on teams for their own gratification, not they're DDs. Take "Ace" for instance, probably has coached his DD forever, she does'nt know how to play for someone else...I'm sure he will hold her hand through life. Then he leaves a pornographic message on a girls softball site..these are the coaches I'm talking about. Where I come from we call them tuna fish, they swim in packs and all think alike, never on their own or outside the box. Then there's "Sam"... chicken of the sea, another tuna. Just agrees with everyone else, sits w/ all the dads, and complains about the same things. The funny thing is I never mentioned one thing about MY daughter leaving any team, in fact she has NEVER quit on a any team since she's been playing. Probably to complicated for some of you to understand because your too busy "swimming w/ the pack".


well said


Thats sarcasm, right? :roll:
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by gripnrip » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:42 pm

Found this article on a sports website, just remeber why we are here...to support our DDs, not the other way around. Dont compare your DDs hobby to a job!....here you go Tuna's:

Pushing kids equals kids pushing back
You have seen children who have been told what to do their whole lives. From 8 to 15 they appear talented and motivated. They comply with heavy parental influence until they are 16 and then with dramatic defiance, quit the sport they have loved all their lives. It’s a common occurrence and many parents are baffled at their children’s choice. Every year children leave sport environments in staggering numbers. Why such a high drop out rate? One-third of all participants drop out because of the following factors: 1) constant criticism or disapproval, 2) over competitive emphasis from adults, 3) little playing time, 4) an environment of fear, 5) playing on a team with no rewards, yet parents insist they stay, and 6) inappropriate full game structure. The key here is that the child has not learned to internalize motivation like we talked above, and this is a key to constant development and enjoyable participation. There have been great strides in training theory, technical analysis and nutrition. The results have been beneficial to everyone. The Youth Soccer world has overwhelmingly accepted the principle of small-sided games that allow for development and enjoyment on the technical side of coaching. The family unit is also a contributing factor in a child’s development. It’s has always been a factor of success in school, sport and community and is now a hot issue in the soccer community.
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by hotwheels » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:49 pm

Ace wrote:
Phantom wrote:
gripnrip wrote:last post for me on this topic, people cant comprehend what they read. The problem on this site is the exact problem on our softball fields. A bunch of wannabe dads that think they know it all when it comes to the game, pitching, hitting, etc.. The same dads that I feel play on teams for their own gratification, not they're DDs. Take "Ace" for instance, probably has coached his DD forever, she does'nt know how to play for someone else...I'm sure he will hold her hand through life. Then he leaves a pornographic message on a girls softball site..these are the coaches I'm talking about. Where I come from we call them tuna fish, they swim in packs and all think alike, never on their own or outside the box. Then there's "Sam"... chicken of the sea, another tuna. Just agrees with everyone else, sits w/ all the dads, and complains about the same things. The funny thing is I never mentioned one thing about MY daughter leaving any team, in fact she has NEVER quit on a any team since she's been playing. Probably to complicated for some of you to understand because your too busy "swimming w/ the pack".


well said


Thats sarcasm, right? :roll:


I haven't been involved with this discussion and don't really care TOOOO, but I saw something that can't go without mentioning.......Sam agrees with EVERYONE?????? What day was that? I must have been sick that day......Usually, it's the opposite kind Sir!
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by Sam » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:58 pm

gripnrip wrote:Found this article on a sports website, just remeber why we are here...to support our DDs, not the other way around. Dont compare your DDs hobby to a job!....here you go Tuna's:

Pushing kids equals kids pushing back
You have seen children who have been told what to do their whole lives. From 8 to 15 they appear talented and motivated. They comply with heavy parental influence until they are 16 and then with dramatic defiance, quit the sport they have loved all their lives. It’s a common occurrence and many parents are baffled at their children’s choice. Every year children leave sport environments in staggering numbers. Why such a high drop out rate? One-third of all participants drop out because of the following factors: 1) constant criticism or disapproval, 2) over competitive emphasis from adults, 3) little playing time, 4) an environment of fear, 5) playing on a team with no rewards, yet parents insist they stay, and 6) inappropriate full game structure. The key here is that the child has not learned to internalize motivation like we talked above, and this is a key to constant development and enjoyable participation. There have been great strides in training theory, technical analysis and nutrition. The results have been beneficial to everyone. The Youth Soccer world has overwhelmingly accepted the principle of small-sided games that allow for development and enjoyment on the technical side of coaching. The family unit is also a contributing factor in a child’s development. It’s has always been a factor of success in school, sport and community and is now a hot issue in the soccer community.


Soccer isn't a real sport...if you knew anything, you would at least know that.

Now off with ya....back to the shire....through the No Nuttin Forest....over the Constantly Babbling Brook....past Brainless Bern....home.....with 12U OC Precious.
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by NoNothin » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:12 pm

Sam wrote:
gripnrip wrote:Found this article on a sports website, just remeber why we are here...to support our DDs, not the other way around. Dont compare your DDs hobby to a job!....here you go Tuna's:

Pushing kids equals kids pushing back
You have seen children who have been told what to do their whole lives. From 8 to 15 they appear talented and motivated. They comply with heavy parental influence until they are 16 and then with dramatic defiance, quit the sport they have loved all their lives. It’s a common occurrence and many parents are baffled at their children’s choice. Every year children leave sport environments in staggering numbers. Why such a high drop out rate? One-third of all participants drop out because of the following factors: 1) constant criticism or disapproval, 2) over competitive emphasis from adults, 3) little playing time, 4) an environment of fear, 5) playing on a team with no rewards, yet parents insist they stay, and 6) inappropriate full game structure. The key here is that the child has not learned to internalize motivation like we talked above, and this is a key to constant development and enjoyable participation. There have been great strides in training theory, technical analysis and nutrition. The results have been beneficial to everyone. The Youth Soccer world has overwhelmingly accepted the principle of small-sided games that allow for development and enjoyment on the technical side of coaching. The family unit is also a contributing factor in a child’s development. It’s has always been a factor of success in school, sport and community and is now a hot issue in the soccer community.


Soccer isn't a real sport...if you knew anything, you would at least know that.

Now off with ya....back to the shire....through the No Nuttin Forest....over the Constantly Babbling Brook....past Brainless Bern....home.....with 12U OC Precious.
This is a first.....Sam and I agree...."S" word is not a sport. Its a brainless style of exercise. Be careful what you say about my forest though Sam.

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