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by Sam » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:11 pm

I'm not justifying what he did....but......what would expect would happen if you spit in the face of a 25 year old man?

I am a 55 year old sage and could likely control my immediate reaction. Not sure if I could say the same as a testosterone loaded 25 year old. It could have been an immediate reaction to the highest form of disrespect that can be given to a young man.

On the other hand, it could be his normal behavior. All I am saying is that she contributed negatively to the situation she placed herself in.
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by jonriv » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:16 pm

Sam wrote:I'm not justifying what he did....but......what would expect would happen if you spit in the face of a 25 year old man?

I am a 55 year old sage and could likely control my immediate reaction. Not sure if I could say the same as a testosterone loaded 25 year old. It could have been an immediate reaction to the highest form of disrespect that can be given to a young man.

On the other hand, it could be his normal behavior. All I am saying is that she contributed negatively to the situation she placed herself in.


I do hope your being tongue in cheek again
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by Sam » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:32 pm

jonriv wrote:
Sam wrote:I'm not justifying what he did....but......what would expect would happen if you spit in the face of a 25 year old man?

I am a 55 year old sage and could likely control my immediate reaction. Not sure if I could say the same as a testosterone loaded 25 year old. It could have been an immediate reaction to the highest form of disrespect that can be given to a young man.

On the other hand, it could be his normal behavior. All I am saying is that she contributed negatively to the situation she placed herself in.


I do hope your being tongue in cheek again


Are you claiming that women have no control over the frequency nor the level of domestic violence? Interesting theory. They are always victims.

Thats funny because the last I checked, they want equal pay for possibly equal work....they want to be be placed on the battlefield as equals with their male soldiers....they claim they are equal in every way. I think you are giving them little credit for their collective lots in life.
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by jonriv » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:40 pm

Unless the mom an is the abuser I just don't get your blame the victim mentality. There is never a good reason for a man to strike a woman- period. You sure your not a member of the Taliban?
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by Pale Rider » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:48 pm

...hell...They weren't married when that happened per news report I just saw
Her statement now screams..'It aint nuttin'...
She dont care...I dont care

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by fastpitchdad05 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:56 pm

Softball spin (since this is a softball site):

One need look no further than recent events in this sport to see assault go unpunished.

A few years back during a game at a tournament at Diamond Valley in Hemet a very prominent softball coach went into the opposing team's dugout and choked an opposing coach in front of players and parents. He was neither charged with a crime nor was he punished in any way by the travel organization he was with or any other entity. He was later asked to leave by that org's leader, but not because of that incident. But don't fret, the poor chap was given a second chance by one of the most prominent orgs around and given his own branch in San Diego when they decided to expand.

Most everyone knows by now about my second example with the pitcher intentionally hitting the umpire. I have still not heard of any repercussions at all for anyone involved.

The truth is I don't see anything changing as far as the travel softball world. Maybe someday if something dire happens and there's some litigation (money talks) then something will change.

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by Sam » Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:30 pm

jonriv wrote:Unless the mom an is the abuser I just don't get your blame the victim mentality. There is never a good reason for a man to strike a woman- period. You sure your not a member of the Taliban?


Nobody is talking blame....again....you seem to lack the grasp of the difference between blame and responsibility. This woman is clearly, at least minimally, responsible for what happened to her.

Just because there is no good reason for a man to hit a woman doesn't mean that good people don't put themselves in situations where a person loses control for an instance. Thats all it takes.

Are you sure you're not a woman? You perpetuate the victim mentality of the women by allowing them to skirt responsibility for their actions. Cops go to homes on domestic dispute calls....to the same homes....over and over and over.....the woman doesn't leave. When does her situation become her own responsibility? When do we say that enough is enough....both ways. After all, we are equals.
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by Pale Rider » Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:40 pm

Choking was a LEGAL issue...Police should have been called...

Around here the coroner would have been the last one to sign anything...
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by Battle » Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:04 pm

What should he have done after she spit in his face? Just wondering...
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by jonriv » Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:18 pm

He should have wiped his face and walked away.

Certainly better than knocking her out and dragging her out of the elevator
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