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by absdad » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:42 pm

Curious... one of the local coaches has said in his tryout posting that he has arranged for his team to scrimmage with several local college teams. We've got a couple of D1's, a D2, 1 NAIA, and a JC locally. Is that even allowed under the rules?? Or is this guy full of squirrel scat?
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by jonriv » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:51 pm

absdad wrote:Curious... one of the local coaches has said in his tryout posting that he has arranged for his team to scrimmage with several local college teams. We've got a couple of D1's, a D2, 1 NAIA, and a JC locally. Is that even allowed under the rules?? Or is this guy full of squirrel scat?



College teams are generally limited with the amount of time during the year they can scrimmage/practice based on DI, II, or III. It would seem odd that they would use some of that time to paly a TB team. Perhaps he was talking about scrimmaging a team of current college players?
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by AlwaysImprove » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:57 pm

jonriv wrote:
absdad wrote:Curious... one of the local coaches has said in his tryout posting that he has arranged for his team to scrimmage with several local college teams. We've got a couple of D1's, a D2, 1 NAIA, and a JC locally. Is that even allowed under the rules?? Or is this guy full of squirrel scat?



College teams are generally limited with the amount of time during the year they can scrimmage/practice based on DI, II, or III. It would seem odd that they would use some of that time to paly a TB team. Perhaps he was talking about scrimmaging a team of current college players?

Might be a 23U team with college kids playing on it, i.e. not all from the same college. A couple of JC's in our area the kids come together in the summer, form a 23U select team and go out and play people. Both of these are allowed. I believe the coach is allowed to sit the stands and watch, as long as the venue is public and they are not coaching the players.
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by papadan » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:24 pm

My DD's College team scrimmaged the Birmingham Thunderbolts during this past fall as part of their fall schedule. I think it was actually a four team "friendly" with colleges and the T-Bolts.

Not sure about the compliance issues, but perhaps if it is run as a college camp with live scrimmages, it might be allowed.
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by DonnieS » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:56 pm

We scrimmaged Jucos - other travel teams did it, rules on Jucos are possibly looser than other classifications.
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by hit4power » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:42 pm

DD's former TB club scrimmaged a juco and a DIII (and beat both). I've never understood what was in it for the college team...
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by sbparent12 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:03 am

hit4power wrote:DD's former TB club scrimmaged a juco and a DIII (and beat both). I've never understood what was in it for the college team...


I see it as a free recruiting for the college teams.
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by DonnieS » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:26 am

hit4power wrote:DD's former TB club scrimmaged a juco and a DIII (and beat both). I've never understood what was in it for the college team...


I wouldn't see what was in it for your TB club. Losses are the best form of "what do we need to improve upon".
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by ajaywill » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:40 pm

Here in AZ, almost all of our JCs play fall scrimmages with each other and the local 18u/GOLD travel teams. The talent level of our JCs vary widely and it is not uncommon for the TB clubs to beat the JCs.

There is also a fall "tournament" held in conjunction with a college umpire camp where the TB teams play the JC teams. It's not a tournament, per say, but more a series of scrimmage games in a more formal atmosphere.
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by DonnieS » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:53 pm

ajaywill wrote:Here in AZ, almost all of our JCs play fall scrimmages with each other and the local 18u/GOLD travel teams. The talent level of our JCs vary widely and it is not uncommon for the TB clubs to beat the JCs.

There is also a fall "tournament" held in conjunction with a college umpire camp where the TB teams play the JC teams. It's not a tournament, per say, but more a series of scrimmage games in a more formal atmosphere.


It want a big deal here - I thought we would and we did beat the jucos that we played, we had several D1 kids on our travel team, but what I hoped was that the juco coaches would take a second look at some of my kids and maybe they would get a chance to jump start their college softball career.
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