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by PDad » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:52 pm

From ABC News website:

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, was found by a homeowner lying in a boat in the man's backyard around 7 p.m.

Gunfire broke out in the immediate aftermath of the discovery, but quickly stopped as police hunkered down for a standoff with Tsarnaev that lasted a little more than an hour and a half.

Around 8:45 p.m., Tsarnaev was taken into custody and transported away from the scene in an ambulance, as law enforcement officials and onlookers clapped and cheered.

Tsarnaev had been shot by police during gunfire nearly 24 hours earlier. Sources said Tsarnaev was bleeding badly.

A senior Justice Department official told ABC News that federal law enforcement officials are invoking the public safety exception to the Miranda rights, so that Tsarnaev will be questioned immediately without having Miranda rights issued to him.

The federal government's high value detainee interrogation group will be responsible for questioning him.

The Miranda exemption exists to protect the public safety from another attack, according to the official.
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by DonnieS » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:33 pm

What happened to "shot while trying to escape". Would have saved us a fortune.
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by as the world turns » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:38 pm

PDad wrote:From ABC News website:

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, was found by a homeowner lying in a boat in the man's backyard around 7 p.m.

Gunfire broke out in the immediate aftermath of the discovery, but quickly stopped as police hunkered down for a standoff with Tsarnaev that lasted a little more than an hour and a half.

Around 8:45 p.m., Tsarnaev was taken into custody and transported away from the scene in an ambulance, as law enforcement officials and onlookers clapped and cheered.

Tsarnaev had been shot by police during gunfire nearly 24 hours earlier. Sources said Tsarnaev was bleeding badly.

A senior Justice Department official told ABC News that federal law enforcement officials are invoking the public safety exception to the Miranda rights, so that Tsarnaev will be questioned immediately without having Miranda rights issued to him.

The federal government's high value detainee interrogation group will be responsible for questioning him.

The Miranda exemption exists to protect the public safety from another attack, according to the official.

I wonder on who's side will Holder be on regarding his Miranda Rights? The American People or the little sh*t?
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by as the world turns » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:42 pm

jonriv wrote:
as the world turns wrote:They hate us. That about sums it up. Will any reason justify the action? No.


Never said justification(again , you need to reaD)

Perhaps Islamic Fundamentalist Extremists Might hate us(extremist might be the clue) Not all in the Muslim faith hate us- I know you like to think they all do, but my own experience has shown me otherwise.

Understanding what motibvates our enemy and who might be attracted to join their fight is important-- this way we know who they are, who they might be and if there is anything we might do that might stop some of these people from joining.

In this particular case- we do not know what these guys were doing. Who were they working for(if anyone) We do not know a lot

Here is an illustration what may have motivated them if not Jihad. I think they are two of the same.
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/radical.jpg
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by PDad » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:48 pm

jonriv wrote:You are all idiots. Alive he gives us. INTEl. He is worth more alive If you new anything about Boston police, they are anything but kind get beyond your ignorance and see the big picture

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by Pale Rider » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:53 pm

I'm quite sure Holder is busy for the moment, Im sure his law firm is gathering up to defend him...like the other he and they have...Wanna guess who will pay?...Look up his WH Staffer Valerie Jarretts, step dad, who was a Communist btw....look up his 1979 article on Islamic Billions....Same fols who paid for Obamas education...
Captured terrorist wont talk...if he knew anything...but just for giggles I'd bring in a 1x12 and a case of Dasani
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by GIMNEPIWO » Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:52 am

Spazsdad wrote:
jonriv wrote:You are all idiots. Alive he gives us. INTEl. He is worth more alive If you new anything about Boston police, they are anything but kind get beyond your ignorance and see the big picture


Like this punk is some high level operative with info.
All that will happen will be millions of dollars spent by his defense team and on security as his trial drags on for years followed by even more years of appeals.
And do you really think Boston PD will have anythiing to do with this case anymore?


From what I understand ... Part of the reason terrorists groups or terrorists are so hard to take down is their lack of structure ... Meaning, it is difficult to cut off the head because there are so many heads and splinter groups ... Difficult to cut off the legs because like ants they just keep coming ... Who knows what this scumbag may know ? Most likely not a damn thing ... But if he is dead it's even harder to find out ...
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by Pale Rider » Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:54 am

Some stuff circulating about attack...
Blackwater was there...thats the guys in black jackets with the skull insignia...or 'The Craft' patch...ex. SEALs, SF, Delta...

Bomb sniffing dogs canvassed the area...which isn't unusual, but the bombs got past all of them....and it seems there was the usual internet terror network 'chatter' before it happened...
Russians offered us assistance immediately...like they knew it was Chechen Islamic terrorists, before we did. In case you didnt know Chechen Islamists make Al Qaeda look like choirboys...and being oldest was already a known sympathizer...investigated, and not deported...WTG DHS BTW...

...to use Ricky Riccardo's words
Somebody has some 'splainin' to do....
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by jonriv » Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:08 am

FBI had interviewed the older brother several times (by request of another government(unnamed))

They said there was little to no internet and other chatter to alert what was going on

Interested to find out if there was anyone else involved and what(if any) international connections there are

So far of the basic anti-terrorist questions(Who, What & WHY)

We have the What, part of the Who, but no clear answer to the why?

I have a feeling this 19 year old will do a lot of talking
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by DonnieS » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:44 am

jonriv wrote:
I have a feeling this 19 year old will do a lot of talking


Myself, I would like to see him gutted and skinned.
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