Another pervert softball coach

[MTR]

From the team's facebook page:

J: I sure hope the leagues he coached for did background checks every year like it is required!K: I coached with him the past two years and i can assure you..background checks were done. Wasn't the leagues fault he did what he did. Unfortunately he has an issue that we were ALL unaware of. Thanks.

Pet Peeve: Background checks are not the protection people believe them to be. These post are a perfect example of the mentality they accommodate.

A BI of anyone catches those who have already been caught and from all the activity we see among teachers, coaches, etc. they really don't deter many.

The ONLY protection a parent should expect for their children is provided by the due diligence of the parents. And a $6-$10 scanning of public records isn't a replacement, nor should it be a defense.

[Sftbll4ever]

We have now spent about 12 years in softball (6 in rec and 6 in TB) and our dd has never experienced any kind of perverted behaviour by a coach. The coaches have all followed a protocol similar to that which AI describes. Every red flag in the world would go up if all of a sudden a coach (or teacher or minister) wanted her to spend the night at their house. On a trip, were there no other parents around to notice that a girl was sleeping in his room? Didn't one of the other girls tell a parent that a player left to sleep in his room? It sounds like the relationships (both of the coaches) went on for quite some time and that will make it much harder for the girls to put their lives back but I can't help but feel that these relationships should have been discovered much sooner. This is not a blame the victim thing, this is a "where were the adults?" thing.

Not supporting these POS's, but, kids will lie and support other kids. Mom, I'm spending the night at a friends. Friend know that girl is seeing an older guy so they will say that they are there if the mom calls. Can be easy to deceive the parents on that note.

[AlwaysImprove]

From the team's facebook page:

J: I sure hope the leagues he coached for did background checks every year like it is required!K: I coached with him the past two years and i can assure you..background checks were done. Wasn't the leagues fault he did what he did. Unfortunately he has an issue that we were ALL unaware of. Thanks.

Pet Peeve: Background checks are not the protection people believe them to be. These post are a perfect example of the mentality they accommodate.

A BI of anyone catches those who have already been caught and from all the activity we see among teachers, coaches, etc. they really don't deter many.

The ONLY protection a parent should expect for their children is provided by the due diligence of the parents. And a $6-$10 scanning of public records isn't a replacement, nor should it be a defense.

I continue to strongly disagree with you on this issue.

In the 70's it was common for someone to commit an offense, get caught, be charged, found guilty, serve their time and be released. They would then move to another state and reoffend.

I think that $10 is more than worthwhile to keep that from happening. Do you agree?

[GIMNEPIWO]

Or maybe we could just ask them if they are a scumbag pedophile pervert or Catholic Preist ... Because they don't lie ... ... I support the background checks as well as other measures, such as Parental envolvement ... But have never thought the " teach my kids not to talk to strangers/adults " approach did little more than create a society of children who don't know how to communicate or look you in the eye when they speak to you ... JMO

[MTR]

I continue to strongly disagree with you on this issue.

In the 70's it was common for someone to commit an offense, get caught, be charged, found guilty, serve their time and be released. They would then move to another state and reoffend.

The 70's? Are you kidding? How about since man started jailing people and not just on this continent?

I think that $10 is more than worthwhile to keep that from happening. Do you agree?

It doesn't work. Many, if not most, of the instances that has been reported in sports and schools, the individual charged HAS been the subject of at least one BI. Between my clearance in the USN and my present job, I have four decades of experience in security and you can do BI until the cows come home, it does not catch the bad guys.

It is nothing, but a weak sense of security. If you think they are worth it, but all means do what you think should be done. However, NO ONE should be surprised or complain when these things occur.

[Dugout Dad]

I continue to strongly disagree with you on this issue.

In the 70's it was common for someone to commit an offense, get caught, be charged, found guilty, serve their time and be released. They would then move to another state and reoffend.

The 70's? Are you kidding? How about since man started jailing people and not just on this continent?

I think that $10 is more than worthwhile to keep that from happening. Do you agree?

It doesn't work. Many, if not most, of the instances that has been reported in sports and schools, the individual charged HAS been the subject of at least one BI. Between my clearance in the USN and my present job, I have four decades of experience in security and you can do BI until the cows come home, it does not catch the bad guys.

It is nothing, but a weak sense of security. If you think they are worth it, but all means do what you think should be done. However, NO ONE should be surprised or complain when these things occur.

The same way these signs at schools don't exactly work - false sense of security....

[ontheblack]

MTR is right. A background check only catches those who have already been caught. My issue is that with many of these vultures, the signs of them circling over our kids is there, but they are often ignored. Just like the coaches with the red cup problems that keep getting gigs.

There are some basic rules to be employed that reduce the risks much more than background checks, but its up to the parents to be involved. As a coach, I do not have private one on one conversations off the dirt, and as a parent, the same rule goes for any male coach. Dont like it, fine, but I will call you out and ask why.

[GIMNEPIWO]

MTR is right. A background check only catches those who have already been caught. My issue is that with many of these vultures, the signs of them circling over our kids is there, but they are often ignored. Just like the coaches with the red cup problems that keep getting gigs.

There are some basic rules to be employed that reduce the risks much more than background checks, but its up to the parents to be involved. As a coach, I do not have private one on one conversations off the dirt, and as a parent, the same rule goes for any male coach. Dont like it, fine, but I will call you out and ask why.

Why does your rule only apply to a ' male coach ' ? ...

[ontheblack]

MTR is right. A background check only catches those who have already been caught. My issue is that with many of these vultures, the signs of them circling over our kids is there, but they are often ignored. Just like the coaches with the red cup problems that keep getting gigs.

There are some basic rules to be employed that reduce the risks much more than background checks, but its up to the parents to be involved. As a coach, I do not have private one on one conversations off the dirt, and as a parent, the same rule goes for any male coach. Dont like it, fine, but I will call you out and ask why.

Why does your rule only apply to a ' male coach ' ? ...

Female coaches are not a threat to my girls. They both have an affinity for boys.

[GIMNEPIWO]

MTR is right. A background check only catches those who have already been caught. My issue is that with many of these vultures, the signs of them circling over our kids is there, but they are often ignored. Just like the coaches with the red cup problems that keep getting gigs.

There are some basic rules to be employed that reduce the risks much more than background checks, but its up to the parents to be involved. As a coach, I do not have private one on one conversations off the dirt, and as a parent, the same rule goes for any male coach. Dont like it, fine, but I will call you out and ask why.

Why does your rule only apply to a ' male coach ' ? ...

Female coaches are not a threat to my girls. They both have an affinity for boys.

WOW ... That is a joke, right ? You think that children choose the sex of the person that abuses them ? Does that come from the same line of thinking that raped woman can choose whether or not the rape gets them pregnant ?