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by Dugout Dad » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:48 pm

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by Sparky Guy » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:35 pm

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jonriv wrote:I like that "Thinking Patriot" :D

Don't look too down on Europe. For all their faults, there are many things we can learn from them-especially the Germans!(just as I think there are many things they can learn from us) having spent some time there, we have far more in common than we have differences


I'd be happy if we could learn to make beer like them ...

You forgot about cars


I'm in the automobile repair business. They make the most over-engineered cars in the world. They have a lot of people fooled. I would never buy a BMW, Mini, Mercedes, Audi or VW veh. Too unreliable.
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by Dugout Dad » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:03 pm

Sparky Guy wrote:I'm in the automobile repair business. They make the most over-engineered cars in the world. They have a lot of people fooled. I would never buy a BMW, Mini, Mercedes, Audi or VW veh. Too unreliable.

How about those VW Jetta and New Beetle transmissions going out at 40-50K, especially the early new beetles. Transmission shops just love them.
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by PDad » Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:52 pm

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PDad wrote:I was thinking back to the North Hollywood shootout in 1997. Those 2 bank robbers had 4 semi's that had been modified to full - 1 Bushmaster Dissipator and 3 Norinco Type 56 S/S-1's. They had 75- and 100-round mags for them and fired off around 1,100 rounds in the bank and outside.

Here is some actual footage - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVeb_zZdliw

Those were illegally obtained AKMs- believe CHICOMs miltiary grade

Are you disputing they were originally 'sport' versions (i.e. semi-automatic) that were modified to be fully automatic? If so, what do you base that on?

For one- they are AKs-not AR-15s

The reports were that they were not modified street legal AKs, but military grade AKs obtained illegally

They used 5 rifles and they're on display in the LAPD museum. You can see close-up pictures of them here - http://www.northhollywoodshootout.com/t ... trade.html (use the pull down menu at top of page) along with some analysis of the modifications.
- Rifles 1 & 2: Modified Norinco Type 56 S (pictures of the LAPD evidence tags indicate this).
- Rifle 3: HK Model 91
- Rifle 4: Modified Norinco Type 56 S-1
- Rifle 5: Modified Bushmaster
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by Pale Rider » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:08 pm

Not real bright move 5 rifles, 3 different calibers...the AKs (Chinese knockoffs) are junky...The HK is a top notch rifle, bet you money it was stolen...the modified part is illegal, I'm sure they were felons...weren't supposed to have firearms anyway...(not supposed to VOTE either) see sort of a trend...Criminals breaking laws...so tell me...How are more laws gonna help...

A local gun shop helped the LAPD did it not?...Isn't that where they 'borrowed' AR 15s to stop them...Boy Howdy....Thank Goodness they could have them for sale at the gun shop eh?
Strange...an evil Assault weapon from a legal Gun Shop saved their bacon...

A couple cops with ARs or even deer caliber rifles and that wouldn't have barely made local news..."Local PD smokes 2 armed robbers as they exit Bank..."
And for those who say body armor....well a round from a 223 would have penetrated it....a round from a 308 caliber rifle from one of the cops would have entered AND exited it...
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by woody7 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:43 pm

I remember that shoot out vividly. The news stations were right in there, showing an under armed police department getting shot up, and only after going into gun shops, to get the proper weapons could they put an end to the situation. The police were getting out gunned pretty badly, until they used the proper tools available to the general public, to end the shootout.
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by Dugout Dad » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:38 pm


Law abiding citizens being ratted out like criminals by the media so the criminals with illegal guns can target them to illegally acquire more guns.

True liberal logic.
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by DonnieS » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:46 pm

UFB. I would say what the hell has this country come to - but then those of us who are honest enough to admit it, already know.
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by Pale Rider » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:04 pm

Dugout Dad wrote:

Law abiding citizens being ratted out like criminals by the media so the criminals with illegal guns can target them to illegally acquire more guns.

True liberal logic.


And use them on the helpless ones...poetic
One thing about it...bet Pittman-Robertson funds can damn near pay off the National Debt
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