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Pitching Coach found on Megan's Law Database-Ray Ramirez

by access2 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:34 am

Ray was DDs first pitching and hitting coach back in 8u up to first year 12s....i knew of his background....never gave me reason to be concerned..know of lots of folks who had used him....just my perspective, use your own judgement....i think the man is okay now and has been for many years now.
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by Imperial SB Dad » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:37 am

I have no dog in this fight, but this line in red below his offenses bothers me,"Registrant has subsequent felony conviction(s) but DOJ has no incarceration information for this felony."

As other posters have stated use your judgment and decide if this man is a risk to your daughter.
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by Fifteen's » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:08 pm

If what is explained is true, and I have no reason to disbelieve Softballmafia's account of his investigation, it is very unfortunate for Mr. Ramirez. I was over 18 when I started dating my wife, who was 17 at the time. I am in no way a child molester, or sex offender, and we are still married 20 something years later(not sure exactly how many :lol: ). It sounds to me more like disgruntled parents back in the 1950's. Very unfortunate for him to have to be labeled a sex offender, if that is what it is based on. JMO.
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by gottano44 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:42 pm

Every organization and parent has a huge responsibility to look in to the background on every adult who is tasked with being a coach, manger or team parent. If an adult is going to be with children in these positions, all adults (parents) need to be aware of what can happen.
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by Sftbll4ever » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:15 pm

Fifteen's wrote:If what is explained is true, and I have no reason to disbelieve Softballmafia's account of his investigation, it is very unfortunate for Mr. Ramirez. I was over 18 when I started dating my wife, who was 17 at the time. I am in no way a child molester, or sex offender, and we are still married 20 something years later(not sure exactly how many :lol: ). It sounds to me more like disgruntled parents back in the 1950's. Very unfortunate for him to have to be labeled a sex offender, if that is what it is based on. JMO.


Same here. My husband was 19 1/2 when we started dating and I was 17. I guess we are lucky my mom liked him. It is very sad that this is something that can ruin someones life, when most every person had relations before the age of consent.
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by Skarp » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:04 pm

CPK1 wrote:No you are correct. I did not witness anything but my parents and my aunt were there with him through it all. Like I said we are long time family friends and have been watching this negatively affect him his entire life. It's just not fair.

Fair or not, the record remains, and people have a right to know about it--particularly when the well-being of their kids is implicated. You may know Mr. Ramirez and the details of the events in question, but we do not. Forums like this give us all an opportunity to learn about potential issues like this, and also provide an avenue for persons in Mr. Ramirez' position, and those who know him, to clear up the record or offer additional relevant information. As the various comments on here illustrate, people aren't stupid. The details matter, as does the fact that people are willing to step forward and speak in his defense.

Would it have been better for Mr. Ramirez if the OP had not published his concerns here, but instead had just spread it by word of mouth among those he/she knows--and they in turn among those they know? Not if the charges are as unfair as you claim. Daylight is the best antiseptic.
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by DonnieS » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:22 pm

access2 wrote:Ray was DDs first pitching and hitting coach back in 8u up to first year 12s....i knew of his background....never gave me reason to be concerned..know of lots of folks who had used him....just my perspective, use your own judgement....i think the man is okay now and has been for many years now.



We had reason to get involved in this issue a few years back and I did a lot of looking into the criminal records. Because the law on sex offenses is poorly defined - and our local law enforcement are so busy protecting us against slot machine operators and other dangers, it is important to know how to read the reports. Here the public record shows the crime (and remember that lots of the time, this is plea-bargained down so what is on the report may seem pretty low level) and information about the victim, relationship to the individual , and the age. What I found are the most important factors for what I worry about are 1) relationship to the individual - "unknown" is the scary one, b) age of the victims. The worst to my mind is catogorized as Relationship = Unknown, Victims Age < 18 - Number of crimes > 1. If one of these individuals shows up, kill them and plead insanity.
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by CPK1 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:51 pm

I'm not sure I understand what you mean Donnie. Are you saying you know the facts of the incident? Because if you do, you would know he plead innocent and didn't plea bargain so wysiwyg. I understand and agree with Skarp and thank him for his viewpoint. He is correct that the public does not know what actually happened and we all fear for our childrens' safety. As hard as this is everytime it comes up, I believe Skarp is correct in that it is best that it did come up so the truth could come out. And I am glad that so many people who know him and know the truth are speaking out in his defense. Like another poster said, we hope that the information shared here will allay some of the fears of the public and this whole thing can be put to rest.

I also hope that every parent has a SERIOUS talk with their sons about what can happen to them in a circumstance such as this. I can't tell you how many boys my daughter knows that are 18 or over that have girlfriends who are 15 years gold. Even if the girl (girlfriend or not) is consenting...IT DOESN'T MATTER should her parents or she wish to press charges. Especially now with the zero tolerance laws, what starts as a simple high school girlfriend can end up ruining his life forever and there is NOTHING he can do about it once he is found guilty. And as in the case of Coach Ray, he is still suffering for a stupid teenage mistake some 53 years later.
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by cwhitt » Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:31 pm

After sending a personal message to Teletubby I am questioned as to why I haven't posted my support for Ray in this open forum, or if I am hiding behind a ficticious name such as Teletubby. I have voiced my opinion on this forum one time in the past and did not have a problem of letting anyone who browsed this forum know that is was me who voiced the opinion. CPK1 is 100% correct. My opinion of Ray still remains the same today as it did the day he told me of this problem some 8 years ago, which I asked him about by the way. Ray is a great guy and has devoted his life to teaching not only kids but parents about the game he loves so dearly. I would be glad to talk to anyone that wants to talk about Ray and what a positive influence he was to both of my girls in there softball careers.
Teletubby I am not afraid to let anyone know my opinions about Ray I have met a bunch of great people in this community and Ray Ramirez is definately one of them.
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by FP FAN » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:17 pm

As parents we take a huge leap of faith when we place our kids in any environment with unfamiliar people.

It is up to us, as parents, to decide what our level of comfort is based on the facts as we know them. It is rare to have 100% certainty about anyone, especially the circumstances of an event unless we are one of the participants.

Regardless of this individual's innocence, guilt, or degree of guilt, the fact remains that he is a registered offender.

You can bet that any adult my underage daughter might come into contact with on a regular, individual basis is checked out as thoroughly as possible. The site mentioned is a good place to start.

Then the gut check for me is to ask myself if I'm spending too much time rationalizing or justifying behavior or innocence, and if I'm trying to talk myself out of feeling a certain way about the situation. Red flags if the answer is yes, as it would be in this case.

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