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Pitching Coach found on Megan's Law Database-Ray Ramirez

by CPK1 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:52 pm

No you are correct. I did not witness anything but my parents and my aunt were there with him through it all. Like I said we are long time family friends and have been watching this negatively affect him his entire life. It's just not fair.
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by Fifteen's » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:22 pm

The problem I am having with your explanation CPK1, is the picture of Mr. Ramirez is not from 1958. So, did he have to go in some time recently and get pictured for this registration? If not, I don't think I am buying the story.
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by CPK1 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:39 pm

Yes you are correct. Once someone is a convicted sex offender they have to register with the local police department and have their picture taken regularly. What good would a picture of someone from 1958 do for anyone now? Like I said, so many people know so little about our laws or how sites like these work. I agree they do waaay more good than bad, that is for sure and I would never want them to go away. However I would like to see them changed so things like this don't keep happening. Classify the offense or something. 18 and 16 is not the same as 40 and 6 for Pete's sake, and being convicted of urinating in public should not make one a sex offender. It just shouldn't! And frankly I don't care if you believe me or not. I've said what I have to say. If anyone feels like they want it proved then by all means go ahead and do your homework. Please!
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by storminnormano » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:24 am

It is very unfortunate that the black cloud continues to follow Coach Ray throughout his life. When my two daughters began taking pitching lessons with Coach Ray in 2006, there were rumors regarding his past. We were shocked to see him listed as a offender on Megan's law website. We asked Coach Ray what this was all about and he openly explained to us in detail what had happened. He looked relieved that he had the opportunity to discuss and explain himself. It was exactly as CPK1 had summarized in his previous post except that he was 18 years old.

Coach Ray is dedicated to his profession and has instructed hundreds of students in the game of fastpitch softball. My two daughters have been taking pitching lessons with Coach Ray for the past five years and never had I or have I heard of anyone having a problem with him.

We as parents are responsible for our childrens safety and future. We teach them to be aware of the world that surrounds them. I appreciate Tellytubby for the post and warning but I also have a couple of questions; Why didn't you confront Coach Ray and ask him what had happened before you decided to join Heybucket and inform the softball world of your findings? Did you ever realize how this post would impact him and affect his family? Knowing the details in full, would you still have posted this information? Well I'm sure why and what you posted is your decision and an explanation or response is not needed.

Thank you CPK1 for your post and support of Coach Ray and sharing with Heybucket followers all the information you had. Coach Ray, we thank you and wish you the very best after this storm clears.
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by sofbal1234 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:45 am

If this is the case then i'd have to agree on the categorization of the severity of the crime.
BUT, on the other hand, i'm SURE the parents of the daughter warned both of them the severity of the crime if they didn't respect their not wanting him to date her!??? I know I wouldn't allow it with any of mine. JMO
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by proudsbmom » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:57 am

Thanks CPK for all of the information. Unfortunately this man has been tortured with this for many years. Seems as if every couple of years something is posted. My daughter went to Ray for many years & not once did I ever feel she was in danger or did he EVER make us feel uncomfortable. He is a good man & Great instructor. If asked about it, he will let you know the truth. He has nothing to hide. People just assume that if on Megan's Law they are child preditors. In this case, he is not.
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by tellytubby » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:09 am

Please explain why he was committed to a mental institute for this?
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by gottano44 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:46 am

If that was the only crime he committed, good to hear he never re-offended. but I think he has re-offended, just not criminally. He has put himself in a position of trust with his students and their parents by not telling them of his status, he has lied to them.
As for his choice of career, He has made another huge mistake. He has had to report once a year to his local law enforcement agency of his home address. He knew it would be posted online and it is public record as to his registration status. Why would he want to put himself and the kids in this position. Why would he not care about the children he works with. When this information is brought to light it does not only affect him, what about his students. Did he think they (the students) would understand that a person they may have trusted is now someone who could have hurt them.
I people can change and become productive citizens but it is still up to them not to be dumb and put other people in position where they need to fear their every step in this world.
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by softballmafia » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:53 am

My daughter also had lessons from Ray many,many,many years ago and when someone who was disgruntled with him notified me. Since I am involved with law enforcement,I did do a background check on him and did verify his crime did occur when he was seventeen years old and has since been clean.
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by proudsbmom » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:23 am

TellyTubby- if you would had read & understood CPK's post & the law, you would have known that he was not committed. Again this was 53 years ago, back then the law classified these offenses as any sex offender as having a mental disorder.

Gottano- most of his parents do know & if they don't and they approach him on it, he will talk to them about it.

Bottom line, it is a choice for us to have our kids in private lessons & choose who we choose to instruct them. Unless we have all the facts, it is cruel to just post something that can ruin someone's life. I just hope that all that read this stream of posts, learn something from all this & that as quick as this information spread , it will also spread that Ray Ramirez is a good man & did not deserve this.
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