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Who wins in the conference realignments?

by MavFan » Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:11 am

SEEBUCKET wrote:The Aggies aren't even playing softball in the SEC the first year, just football, soccer, and volleyball. A&M has some pretty weak recruits coming in 2012, 13 & 14s. If they are going to compete in the SEC and not be the Texas Techof softball in the Big 12 they are going to have to decommit these 5 and 15% pitchers and catchers, not to mention SSs and go out and get some Real Players and sit these little I Only Want To Go To A&M Darlings! Just my opinion!


I love the Aggies but they can do better.



Can you show a link where it says A&M will only compete in football, soccer and volleyball? Considering they haven't even been invited to join, I can't imagine there is anything out there with participation timelines. But if you can produce it great.... On that note, the sports you listed are all fall sports. Are you confusing calendar year and academic year?? They aren't leaving the Big 12 until June 30, 2012 so, if accepted into the SEC, they wouldn't begin playing in that league until academic year 2012-2013
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by Outsidethefence » Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:35 am

SEEBUCKET wrote:
3Bsnag wrote:I wonder the 5 you are referring to out of the 11 committed in those years, but I can tell you one of those 2013's is a gamer. Don't know the kid, but she is and has been fun to watch.

The move I most want to shake my head at is TCU going to the Big East.



Sorry Snag...should have put the % sign after the 5...meaning these girls are committing for so little that they are going to have to get better players who wouldn't commit for so little if they are going to compete. To say ok I've always wanted to go there and I'll commit for practically nothing just to be on the roster type of recruit isn't going to cut it.
I heard Texas had a 10% scholarship player that won Big 12 Player of the Year. Money doesn't always equal performance, look no further than professional sports.?? Seebucket, your confused about this scholarship process... Last year A&M had 21 roster players (3 walk ons) They have 12 full scholarships to give. Some players may have full rides, but most have partials. Do the math 12 divided by 18... None of this includes any academic money. Do your homework before you run your mouth. I personally know of 9 comitted players from '12 to '14 and if all 9 got your "high number" of 15%, that would be 1 1/3 full scholarships. If the roster make-up in 2014 is similar in numbers then the other 9 scholarship players would have 119% scholarships... Damn! Those kids are gonna be good! A&M is going to win the first National Championship ever by a SEC school!
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by Bleacher Creature » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:13 pm

Outsidethefence wrote:
SEEBUCKET wrote:
3Bsnag wrote:I wonder the 5 you are referring to out of the 11 committed in those years, but I can tell you one of those 2013's is a gamer. Don't know the kid, but she is and has been fun to watch.

The move I most want to shake my head at is TCU going to the Big East.



Sorry Snag...should have put the % sign after the 5...meaning these girls are committing for so little that they are going to have to get better players who wouldn't commit for so little if they are going to compete. To say ok I've always wanted to go there and I'll commit for practically nothing just to be on the roster type of recruit isn't going to cut it.
I heard Texas had a 10% scholarship player that won Big 12 Player of the Year. Money doesn't always equal performance, look no further than professional sports.?? Seebucket, your confused about this scholarship process... Last year A&M had 21 roster players (3 walk ons) They have 12 full scholarships to give. Some players may have full rides, but most have partials. Do the math 12 divided by 18... None of this includes any academic money. Do your homework before you run your mouth. I personally know of 9 comitted players from '12 to '14 and if all 9 got your "high number" of 15%, that would be 1 1/3 full scholarships. If the roster make-up in 2014 is similar in numbers then the other 9 scholarship players would have 119% scholarships... Damn! Those kids are gonna be good! A&M is going to win the first National Championship ever by a SEC school!




Good Luck to ya! :roll:
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by Outsidethefence » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:17 pm

Bleacher Creature wrote:
Outsidethefence wrote:
SEEBUCKET wrote:
3Bsnag wrote:I wonder the 5 you are referring to out of the 11 committed in those years, but I can tell you one of those 2013's is a gamer. Don't know the kid, but she is and has been fun to watch.

The move I most want to shake my head at is TCU going to the Big East.



Sorry Snag...should have put the % sign after the 5...meaning these girls are committing for so little that they are going to have to get better players who wouldn't commit for so little if they are going to compete. To say ok I've always wanted to go there and I'll commit for practically nothing just to be on the roster type of recruit isn't going to cut it.
I heard Texas had a 10% scholarship player that won Big 12 Player of the Year. Money doesn't always equal performance, look no further than professional sports.?? Seebucket, your confused about this scholarship process... Last year A&M had 21 roster players (3 walk ons) They have 12 full scholarships to give. Some players may have full rides, but most have partials. Do the math 12 divided by 18... None of this includes any academic money. Do your homework before you run your mouth. I personally know of 9 comitted players from '12 to '14 and if all 9 got your "high number" of 15%, that would be 1 1/3 full scholarships. If the roster make-up in 2014 is similar in numbers then the other 9 scholarship players would have 119% scholarships... Damn! Those kids are gonna be good! A&M is going to win the first National Championship ever by a SEC school!




Good Luck to ya! :roll:
We will have to get by Arkansas first right? ;) The point was that scholarship money doesn't make the player.
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by heybuckethead » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:22 pm

So the latest news out of Austin says, only Brigham Young to Bix XII if they stay at 10. Longshots are Notre Dame, Air Force, and Pittsburg with one or more if conference goes back to XII which seems unlikely from all reports.

From a softball standpoint, adding any of these schools sucks. BYU and Air Force don't offer softball and Notre Dame and Pitt get KILLED in the Big XII. With BYU, conference is down to just 8 schools. Losing A&M's RPI as conference opponent also doesn't help.

Look for Big XII to lose at least one, and maybe two, regional berths, either way.
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by heybuckethead » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:38 pm

Sorry 'bout that. Edited original thought on Air Force and left BYU in sentence. :)
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by SEEBUCKET » Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:06 pm

Outsidethefence wrote:
SEEBUCKET wrote:The Aggies aren't even playing softball in the SEC the first year, just football, soccer, and volleyball. A&M has some pretty weak recruits coming in 2012, 13 & 14s. If they are going to compete in the SEC and not be the Texas Techof softball in the Big 12 they are going to have to decommit these 5 and 15% pitchers and catchers, not to mention SSs and go out and get some Real Players and sit these little I Only Want To Go To A&M Darlings! Just my opinion!


I love the Aggies but they can do better.
You don't love A&M and make comments like this... That is not the type of comments that an Aggie would make. Leave the recruiting to Coach Evans, she seems to be doing a really good job. A super regional appearance this year losing two close games to the eventual National Champions. Florida didn't play them as close as the Aggies did. I guarantee you none of the '14s committed for the % you have implied, but that is none of your concern anyway.

Tell you what... you go get nine of your "real players" which I'm guessing includes your DD (that didn't get an offer at A&M), and we will bring the '12-'14 A&M commits to the ballpark of your choice. We can settle it there. :lol:

So Seebucket you just joined "the bucket" recently and on your 16th post you decided to trash talk some kids? What are you all about? You should probably leave the ballpark and get some therapy before you hurt yourself... Or have you been on the bucket a while and this is your alter ego for bashing players??? Either way you are a loser.



Sorry I didn't join the party earlier enough or to your specifications. Unfortunately my two DDs chose dance and volleyball after we moved to California so they never considered A&M. We moved back recently and my son and two of his best buddies can't wait to join the Aggie Family.
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by Bleacher Creature » Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:01 pm

Outsidethefence wrote:
Bleacher Creature wrote:
Outsidethefence wrote:
SEEBUCKET wrote:
3Bsnag wrote:I wonder the 5 you are referring to out of the 11 committed in those years, but I can tell you one of those 2013's is a gamer. Don't know the kid, but she is and has been fun to watch.

The move I most want to shake my head at is TCU going to the Big East.



Sorry Snag...should have put the % sign after the 5...meaning these girls are committing for so little that they are going to have to get better players who wouldn't commit for so little if they are going to compete. To say ok I've always wanted to go there and I'll commit for practically nothing just to be on the roster type of recruit isn't going to cut it.
I heard Texas had a 10% scholarship player that won Big 12 Player of the Year. Money doesn't always equal performance, look no further than professional sports.?? Seebucket, your confused about this scholarship process... Last year A&M had 21 roster players (3 walk ons) They have 12 full scholarships to give. Some players may have full rides, but most have partials. Do the math 12 divided by 18... None of this includes any academic money. Do your homework before you run your mouth. I personally know of 9 comitted players from '12 to '14 and if all 9 got your "high number" of 15%, that would be 1 1/3 full scholarships. If the roster make-up in 2014 is similar in numbers then the other 9 scholarship players would have 119% scholarships... Damn! Those kids are gonna be good! A&M is going to win the first National Championship ever by a SEC school!




Good Luck to ya! :roll:
We will have to get by Arkansas first right? ;) The point was that scholarship money doesn't make the player.

I like the way you think :D SEC is tough and getting better .For anyone to make that statement should get that response.
Personaly I would not be upset if the Aggies make the move
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by MavFan » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:27 pm

heybuckethead wrote:So the latest news out of Austin says, only Brigham Young to Bix XII if they stay at 10. Longshots are Notre Dame, Air Force, and Pittsburg with one or more if conference goes back to XII which seems unlikely from all reports.

From a softball standpoint, adding any of these schools sucks. BYU and Air Force don't offer softball and Notre Dame and Pitt get KILLED in the Big XII. With BYU, conference is down to just 8 schools. Losing A&M's RPI as conference opponent also doesn't help.

Look for Big XII to lose at least one, and maybe two, regional berths, either way.



I know you said you edited this and forgot to remove BYU, but I don't think you did. Because you stated with BYU conference is down to just 8 schools. Believing BYU and Kansas St would be the two teams of 10 without softball. Texas, Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma, Ok St, Kansas, Missouri, Iowa St, and BYU would be 9.

But whatever....

The Big 12 is dead unless it can lure a big name team from another conference or Notre Dame, BYU is not that school.

Notre Dame, in my opinion, is the only school that can save the Big 12 and that isn't going to happen. I fully expect OU and Texas to go to the Pac 12 OU can drop OSU because Texas lost its "partner" Texas A&M. OU could go to the SEC but won't, not without Texas or Okahoma St. If you look at the teams in the SEC, OK State doesn't have the staduim size, the large alumni base and the enourmous fan following that the SEC looked for
when it expanded in 1992, so I don't think they are an option for the SEC. OU fits that mold but I just can't see them moving to SEC without a natural rival from the get go. Its one thing to not play Nebraska every year, but to not play OSU or Texas, or have to play them in addition to the SEC schedule would make for an impossible schedule.
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by heybuckethead » Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:03 pm

I may be a liar or just a bad editor posting on Heybucket while on a teleconference. But you failed to come close to addressing my point - that the Big XII loses a NCAA softball tournament berth regardless of who gets added -- which I suppose makes you either illiterate, stupid, a troll, or just an ass. :lol:
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