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ASA being sued

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by jmo » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:24 pm

sftblldud wrote:Can you say "FRIVOLOUS", if the court system allows this then every kid and their parent will sue every sports organization they played in. It's part of the game and we all know it. Maybe we will have to start signing injury waivers upon making a TB team.

Maybe they can go back and use the ASA insurance to get the medical treatment she has received.



sftblldud - you are making much more sense now. I think I am starting to like your posts. Maybe we all can "just get along" :D
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by Sam » Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:39 pm

sftblldud wrote:Can you say "FRIVOLOUS", if the court system allows this then every kid and their parent will sue every sports organization they played in. It's part of the game and we all know it. Maybe we will have to start signing injury waivers upon making a TB team.

Maybe they can go back and use the ASA insurance to get the medical treatment she has received.


Frivolous? Really? The can point to at least one other national softball organization that has maximum pitch counts. They can certainly claim that ASA should know about the dangers of overuse injuries and that overuse injuries to pitchers account for nearly all the overuse injuries in the sport. They can claim that all the ASA certified coaches told them that girls softball is different than boys baseball....girls can pitch an unlimited number of innings.

Maybe ASA will do something about it. Premier could take the lead here. These kids get to college and their arms are junk....if they make it that long.

The parents won't do it voluntarily and the coaches won't limit the pitchers' innings unilaterally.

I hope these people win their case.
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by PDad » Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:52 pm

NumeroUno wrote:The torn labrum was probably done in college where some schools have the football trainers train the softball players in the weight room. I have heard a few schools changing there weight lifting program because they are seeing to many torn labrums and they think it is due to the way they are training the girls.

My niece and a couple volleyball teammates had shoulder surgery in college due to a rookie head coach and the inappropriate strength trainer she brought in. The coach had them doing an absurd number of serves every practice and the trainer's program exphasized single-rep max weights.

An orthopedist told us overhand athletes (baseball, softball, volleyball, water polo) shouldn't lift any weights over their heads (e.g. military press) due to the risk of shoulder injury. He is the team doctor for a couple SoCal colleges.

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by GIMNEPIWO » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:40 pm

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by Sam » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:28 pm

Spazsdad wrote:They should sue the umpires for having a tight zone leading to more pitches per inning


How many innings does your kid throw on a typical weekend?
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by Sftball Junkie » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:07 pm

I second the notion that the girl would have better luck filing suit against her parents.

I do however agree with the point that ASA and others need to look at setting an inning limit on pitchers.

Unfortunately I have yet to see a pitchers parents admit there DD is tired and could use a rest. I don’t know how many times I have heard some stupid pitchers parent talk about how there 10 12 or 14 year old is a warrior and can pitch 3 4 or even 5 games straight. And Yes!!! they all use the lame ass excuse that it’s an under hand pitch so it doesn’t wear the shoulder down. What Doctor told you 200 pitches a day from the time your DD is 10 is a good thing?? And what about the rest of the body??? UMMMM…. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!!!! I would love to see one of these dad’s living through their DD go throw 3 4 or 5 games straight. Coaches are at fault as well for many of them the W is more important then the safety of their players.

Don’t get me wrong I do not agree with the suit however at some point someone needs to protect these young girls from the people they trust most....
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by sftblldud » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:28 pm

How about clocking a pitchers velocity, and when they lose 4-6 MPH on there fastball(even though pitchers stop throwing fastballs in there early teens), then you know you have a arm problem.
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by brewtusplease » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:35 pm

So I guess she never practiced pitching and her complaint is over pitching in tournaments? Seriously? What did she do during the week? Nothing?
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by sftblldud » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:44 pm

brewtusplease wrote:So I guess she never practiced pitching and her complaint is over pitching in tournaments? Seriously? What did she do during the week? Nothing?
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by Sam » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:09 pm

Sftball Junkie wrote:I second the notion that the girl would have better luck filing suit against her parents.

I do however agree with the point that ASA and others need to look at setting an inning limit on pitchers.

Unfortunately I have yet to see a pitchers parents admit there DD is tired and could use a rest. I don’t know how many times I have heard some stupid pitchers parent talk about how there 10 12 or 14 year old is a warrior and can pitch 3 4 or even 5 games straight. And Yes!!! they all use the lame ass excuse that it’s an under hand pitch so it doesn’t wear the shoulder down. What Doctor told you 200 pitches a day from the time your DD is 10 is a good thing?? And what about the rest of the body??? UMMMM…. YOU’RE AN IDIOT!!!! I would love to see one of these dad’s living through their DD go throw 3 4 or 5 games straight. Coaches are at fault as well for many of them the W is more important then the safety of their players.

Don’t get me wrong I do not agree with the suit however at some point someone needs to protect these young girls from the people they trust most....


How do the parents get blamed when everyone they talk to from 8U to 14U tells them that throwing a softball is natural and their DD's can throw an unlimited amount of pitches. They are encouraged to have their kid practice every day of the week, throwing 100 pitches per day in order to stay competitive. Coaches destroy these kids with the help of ALL the organizing bodies (except Little League). We all laugh at the LL product, but the dirty little secret is that they got it right and have had it right for a while. Coaches have no problem throwing a kid out there to throw their 3rd game of the day in 90 degree heat.

The solution is easy. Don't throw your little girl any more than you would your son.
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