12U State Games and Updated Info.

[SI98]

The ASA commissioner gives the coaches a deadline, usually within a couple days or at most a week after the conclusion of states, to tell them whether or not the team is continuing on in championship play.

All coaches had to notify the commissioner whether they were chasing Alabama by way of regionals or Disney, moving on to Westerns, or none of the above. The manager had to let her know ASAP. If the team was not taking part in Westerns or Regionals all of their players would be released and eligible as pickups. I don't believe it was a hard deadline, but this weekend sounds about right.

With that said Sudden Impact is looking for a 12th player to add to our roster for Westerns.

*Teams entering the qualifier cannot pickup players for that tournament. Teams going to Westerns and USA Nationals can begin adding.

[glasshalfempty]

Anyone know game times for Disney Citrus this weekend. Brackets posted?

I don't think any games are being played in the 12's. They just handed out the berths.

Really...who got the berths?

From a previous post:
"There are only 4 teams registered for the Citrus Classic (DISNEY) - OC Batbusters 98, Artesia Punishers 98, Team Soto, and American Athletics-Miles - with two national berths - that means if two of the teams qualify at States - the other two teams get the berths - no tourney has to be played."

Since BB98 and AA qualified at States, that leaves two berths for two teams...

Earned Berths at ASA State Tournament
1 OC Batbusters 98- Looking really strong!
2 Victory USA- A solid #3 team! Other teams are beginning to close the gap. Coming up short this year I'm afraid! Excellent defense,
3 OC Batbusters Briggs Good team, but not enough to win it. Could end up in top 10, but not win it.
3 So Cal Choppers Vannoy- Good hitters but not strong enough defensively and pitching.
5 Cal Cruisers Sievers- Good draw, but won their games. Top 10 finish would be an accomplishment.
5 So Cal Hurricanes 98- Good draw, but the Corona Angels victory showed they can compete to make the top 10 at nationals.
5 Sun Devils- Good draw and some good wins.
5 Team Rawlings 98- Good team but needs some pitching depth and to play better defense.
9 American Athletics- Miles- Played well at States, but too short of talent to be a factor at Nationals.
9 American Pastime 98- One of the biggest surprises of the tournament! Still not good enough to win Nationals.
9 Corona Angels 98- Won a huge game against USA A's, giving up 8 runs and scoring 9 is not going to get it done at Nationals.
9 So Cal Athletics- Morris- Good draw and won some close games. Another team that doesn't have enough to win it.

Earned Berths at Last Year’s Nationals
Firecrackers 98- 2nd at Western Nationals (12U)- Has to be the favorite now to win it all!!!
Firecrackers 99- 1st at ASA Nationals (10U)- A top ten finish is realistic if #1 can carry them and a good draw.

Paid $800 for a Berth at the Disney National Qualifier and didn’t play any games!
Artesia Punishers 98- Good team, but choked when it mattered! Too inconsistent, but has a chance if they get a good draw! Ultimately, they're undeserving of their berth. They're still better than more the half the qualified teams in my opinion, but didn't earn their way. No matter how well they play at Nationals, they always have an asterisk in my mind!

Looks like 14 out 15 teams actually earned their berths to ASA Nationals. I think the large “P” on their jersey should stand for “Paid.”

[fastpitchdad05]

Not a 12U dad, but I gotta ask...why is their such a wave of negativity toward the 12U Punisher team? Are their parents cocky and obnoxious at games? Did they beat your DDs team? Is it both?

Glasshalfempty...this isn't just for you. I've seen a ton of this and I'm just very curious.

I'm sure softbal1234 will give us her honest opinion on this subject...whether we want it or not!

[sofbal1234]

Not a 12U dad, but I gotta ask...why is their such a wave of negativity toward the 12U Punisher team? Are their parents cocky and obnoxious at games? Did they beat your DDs team? Is it both?

Glasshalfempty...this isn't just for you. I've seen a ton of this and I'm just very curious.

I'm sure softbal1234 will give us her honest opinion on this subject...whether we want it or not!

No comment
With the exception of the obnoxious dad @ the OCCC who went behind CA98 dugout trying to pick a fight with the coaching staff for pitching a girl inside and almost hitting her. My thoughs are, if your going to have a player stand @ bat with her toes literally touching the plate and getting away with it from the blue, you should be threatening your own coaching staff for putting your DD in a dangerous situation That's just my honest opinion though

[fastpitchdad05]

Not a 12U dad, but I gotta ask...why is their such a wave of negativity toward the 12U Punisher team? Are their parents cocky and obnoxious at games? Did they beat your DDs team? Is it both?

Glasshalfempty...this isn't just for you. I've seen a ton of this and I'm just very curious.

I'm sure softbal1234 will give us her honest opinion on this subject...whether we want it or not!

No comment
With the exception of the obnoxious dad @ the OCCC who went behind CA98 dugout trying to pick a fight with the coaching staff for pitching a girl inside and almost hitting her. My thoughs are, if your going to have a player stand @ bat with her toes literally touching the plate and getting away with it from the blue, you should be threatening your own coaching staff for putting your DD in a dangerous situation That's just my honest opinion though

As I suspected, there is some bad blood.

Thanks for the always-honest opinion, 1234.

[TheCloser]

Anyone know game times for Disney Citrus this weekend. Brackets posted?

I don't think any games are being played in the 12's. They just handed out the berths.

Really...who got the berths?

From a previous post:
"There are only 4 teams registered for the Citrus Classic (DISNEY) - OC Batbusters 98, Artesia Punishers 98, Team Soto, and American Athletics-Miles - with two national berths - that means if two of the teams qualify at States - the other two teams get the berths - no tourney has to be played."

Since BB98 and AA qualified at States, that leaves two berths for two teams...

Earned Berths at ASA State Tournament
1 OC Batbusters 98- Looking really strong!
2 Victory USA- A solid #3 team! Other teams are beginning to close the gap. Coming up short this year I'm afraid! Excellent defense,
3 OC Batbusters Briggs Good team, but not enough to win it. Could end up in top 10, but not win it.
3 So Cal Choppers Vannoy- Good hitters but not strong enough defensively and pitching.
5 Cal Cruisers Sievers- Good draw, but won their games. Top 10 finish would be an accomplishment.
5 So Cal Hurricanes 98- Good draw, but the Corona Angels victory showed they can compete to make the top 10 at nationals.
5 Sun Devils- Good draw and some good wins.
5 Team Rawlings 98- Good team but needs some pitching depth and to play better defense.
9 American Athletics- Miles- Played well at States, but too short of talent to be a factor at Nationals.
9 American Pastime 98- One of the biggest surprises of the tournament! Still not good enough to win Nationals.
9 Corona Angels 98- Won a huge game against USA A's, giving up 8 runs and scoring 9 is not going to get it done at Nationals.
9 So Cal Athletics- Morris- Good draw and won some close games. Another team that doesn't have enough to win it.

Earned Berths at Last Year’s Nationals
Firecrackers 98- 2nd at Western Nationals (12U)- Has to be the favorite now to win it all!!!
Firecrackers 99- 1st at ASA Nationals (10U)- A top ten finish is realistic if #1 can carry them and a good draw.

Paid $800 for a Berth at the Disney National Qualifier and didn’t play any games!
Artesia Punishers 98- Good team, but choked when it mattered! Too inconsistent, but has a chance if they get a good draw! Ultimately, they're undeserving of their berth. They're still better than more the half the qualified teams in my opinion, but didn't earn their way. No matter how well they play at Nationals, they always have an asterisk in my mind!

Looks like 14 out 15 teams actually earned their berths to ASA Nationals. I think the large “P” on their jersey should stand for “Paid.”

No doubt OCBB 98 is a good team but they had an easy walk into the finals. With pool play and other factors at play at Nationals their road will be much tougher. Like Punishers, Victory, and FC 98 it's not easy being on top and people will be after them come the next time around.

The pitcher from Lady Lasers is legit. She'll have to carry the load at Nationals for FC 98 because they have one injured pitcher who may not be 100% at Nationals and another that will be called for illegal pitches. They have great sticks and some experience on their side.

Victory 98 lost the ship at States but didn't play any close games up until that point in the tournament. Like FC 98, they'll be difficult to beat twice in a tournament. They also have experience on their side.

From what I've seen those are the only 3 teams that can compete for a National Title from California.

[BIG DADDY 24]

Is it really the Punishers fault that the system is broke for the way these berths are given out... Do ya really see the Punishers calling up the other teams and saying hey just dont come so we can be handed a berth...come on. we all know they deserve to be there. Haters relax alittle and band together for a great CALIFORNIA showing whether you DD's team made it or not. Is my DD on the PUNISHERS ? NO . she is not, just want us to be represented as strong as possible in BAMA!!!!

[sofbal1234]

Is it really the Punishers fault that the system is broke for the way these berths are given out... Do ya really see the Punishers calling up the other teams and saying hey just dont come so we can be handed a berth...come on. we all know they deserve to be there. Haters relax alittle and band together for a great CALIFORNIA showing whether you DD's team made it or not. Is my DD on the PUNISHERS ? NO . she is not, just want us to be represented as strong as possible in BAMA!!!!

Well there's definitely NO HATING here. Some of us were actually hoping to meet up with them @ states to prove the OCCC wasn't a fluke, as a few of the parents from the Punishers have openly suggested. Maybe the opportunity will present itself in BAMA so all the critics can rest

[WHAT THE]

Is it really the Punishers fault that the system is broke for the way these berths are given out... Do ya really see the Punishers calling up the other teams and saying hey just dont come so we can be handed a berth...come on. we all know they deserve to be there. Haters relax alittle and band together for a great CALIFORNIA showing whether you DD's team made it or not. Is my DD on the PUNISHERS ? NO . she is not, just want us to be represented as strong as possible in BAMA!!!!

I guess the "SYSTEM" made the chest pounders go 3 and out!

[BIG DADDY 24]

Ok WHAT THE, do the girls do the chest pounding or the PARENTS ??? . the last time i checked the girls play the games not the parents. i'll give you the fact they didnt have a good tournament,but they still belong whether you or me like them or not. just my opinion


oh ya SOFBAL1234, my haters comment was not directed at you at all, was an in general comment for all