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by jofus » Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:37 am

wadeintothem wrote:Don’t block inside with poor positioning. Definitely don’t adjust inside after the pitchers hands come together and the pitch has begun. That is the main complaint umpires when talking about poor catchers.. catchers who screen them from the plate. We have to work girl! Get your big dome out of our way. Umpires set when a pitchers hands come together. So if you reset after the pitcher has put their hands together, you shielded us from the plate. A pitch we cant see must be called a ball, and there is also a slight feeling of wanting to punish you for your terrible catching. You effectively stole those spots in the zone from your team. You hurt your team. That, is "your bad".



OK, a question about this paragraph. My DD was catching 12U this weekend, and she is a decent sized girl (about 5'7", 120ish lbs), and we've been working with her on her stance, she had a habit of sitting down on her legs/feet too much, rather than raising up into a squatting position to receive the pitch. She also had her feet too close together, which tied into the same problem. So, we had her concentrating on being in a better catching position, especially with runners on base, to take less strain off of her knees and so she could be quicker if she had to come up and fire.

So, the first inning our pitcher walks a batter or 2, and our coach asks the umpire if a couple of the pitches she threw outside-low were missing outside or low, and he responds....

"Well, your catcher is too tall, so I can't always see where they are, so I'm not sure where they missed, I just called them a ball because I couldn't see them...."

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While that is somewhat what Wade said above, she wasn't moving to the side at all, just raising up maybe 4-6 inches. I paid attention the next inning, and the ump was sitting at least 4 feet behind her, which is about 3 and a half feet farther back than where I set up, so I'm thinking that had something to do with him not being able to see low pitches.
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by Martin » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:30 am

At 5' 7", 120 lbs, she is considerably smaller than Stacy Nuveman. I don't think the Olympic pitchers get many balls called on them because Stacy is blocking the ump's view.

If your DD is in a proper catcher's stance then the ump should have no problems seeing the strike zone. If the ump is 3-4' behind the catcher, he most definitely will have a hard time seeing the zone. By your description, the problem seems to be with the ump. Keep doing what you're doing.
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by slider201 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:57 pm

Oh come on! Everybody knows umpires are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.
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by cazzy » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:46 pm

Excellent post as always Wade.
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by wadeintothem » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:44 am

jofus wrote:
While that is somewhat what Wade said above, she wasn't moving to the side at all, just raising up maybe 4-6 inches. I paid attention the next inning, and the ump was sitting at least 4 feet behind her, which is about 3 and a half feet farther back than where I set up, so I'm thinking that had something to do with him not being able to see low pitches.

Sounds like the umpire is just in bad position. I dont think there is a right way to catch for a poorly positioned umpire, so just do the best you can.
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by cazzy » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:25 am

Love this old post.
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by Makina » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:57 am

Great advice to all catchers! My # 1 pet peeve is the catcher that shifts inside after the pitcher is coming set. She completely blocks your view and you can't see if the pitch crosses the plate. All you see is the back of the catchers head.

One of the best defensive catcher I have seen in travel is the Florida catcher Aubree Munroe who goes about 5' 10", If you re tall, watch how she set's up and works with her pitcher.
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