Crabby_Bob wrote:Sam wrote:Do the math Sparky. [...] ASA allows 98mph and has the pitchers throw from 35 feet....bats that meet the test can produce ball speeds of over 120 mph coming back at our daughters.
How far will a softball batted at 120mph travel?
Sparky Guy wrote:I take it your DD doesn't pitch.
Not any more.
Her softball career was completed 18 months ago when she graduated college. She started pitching when she was 11 years old playing in-house. After that she went to travel 14U at 12 years old. She's traveled the country with with her travel team always playing up. She pitched the final two innings of the HS state championship game at 15 years old for the win. Her ERA was well under 1.00 and averaged 8.7 k's per 7 innings throughout HS playing in the toughest conference in the state. She was just under 2.0 and 7.8 k's per 7 throughout college. She's played with and against 5 girls who've been in the WCWS, including a series MVP.
I've seen pretty much everything from girls being successful in college to girls being thrown out for poor academics and drugs. To girls quitting because their travel programs never prepared them for college ball. I've seen a girl walk away from a full ride 2 weeks before school started. I've seen them give up a full ride at a D1 to play for a small college close to home because of a boyfriend. I've seen several of them lose scholarship opportunities due to knee injuries suffered playing basket ball during recruiting years. I've never seen one lose anything from a softball injury.
I would have to estimate my daughter throughout her entire career threw somewhere in the area of 800,000 pitches between practices, games, and warm-ups. She never once missed a game due to a pitching injury. She was never seriously injured by a come-backer. She grew up to be a normal, healthy woman despite playing on teams with older girls when she was younger.
I lived the joy of seeing her winning numerous big games, receiving numerous awards, and being interviewed by reporters after HS games. I've also witnessed the utter agony of seeing the last pitch of her career being hit for a grand slam after she pitched her team from the last seed in their college conference tournament to the "if" game. I felt helpless watching her cry in the dugout because she thought she let her teammates down even though she had no more to give physically.
If that's not enough, I've been coaching 10U kids for the last 6 years without a child on the team. So I've seen a lot from the other side of the fence too.
Sam, I've seen pretty much everything this game has to offer, so don't take offense when I'm not moved by your arguments. The impression of you I get from your posts is that you are a curmudgeon who sees the glass as half empty all the time. You seem to be overly bitter for reasons I doubt we'll never know.You can claim that TB managers don't abuse pitchers and you can claim that the bats are just fine. I'm trying to wake up the pitchers' parents.
Just where did I say that???????? If you would read my earlier posts you will find I stated I would like see everyone dial back the performance levels of these bats. There are too many girls hitting home runs who have no business hitting a ball out.
Please, I beg you. Find and quote me where I said pitchers don't get abused by TB coaches. I never said TB managers don't abuse and overuse pitchers. That was something you admitted to doing in earlier posts at your daughter's expense. I quit coaching my daughter when she started playing 14U. I realized how much I didn't know about the game and let her play for people with years of experience in the game. I sat back with my mouth shut and ears open learning everything I could about the game. She had to fight for circle time because they had 4 pitchers on the team. If she walked two hitters in a row the dugout door was swinging open and the next girl was heading out to the circle. The competition made her mentally tough and kept her working.
Sam wrote:Hey Wade,
This is the thread....not the Umpire is Always Right, Coaches Are Stupid, ASA is God thread.....you have no business here.
But that's one helluva post you made and looks like you have a lot to be proud of. Very awesome.
daylightkate wrote:Wow people, it's time to chill!
Sam, don't know you and don't know of your situation with your daughter and injury. If it was posted in the 33 pages of what happened, I have to apologize that I couldn't bring myself to read everything. I guess it was the absent mention of the "Pole Barn". It is clear that you are obviously passionate and driven by this conversation and are now making it personal.
Tumblebug; Yes, it's nice to see the human side of the manufacturer. You too have shown that you are also passionate about your work, life and how it relates to sport.
May I suggest that you guys take a time out? Uno, maybe you can invoke the 24 hour rule on these two and let them calm down? I bet if these two indiduals sat down beside one another at a bar or game that they would have a great conversation where both would leave with a better understanding of one another. Tumble, I'll send you another pic if that helps?
Words on a screen can be interpreted in so many ways as it lacks the facial expressions and feelings which is part and parcel of dialogue.
Naively thought that gfy was meant to read - Good for you!
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