PGF DRAW is going on Now, post here

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Here it is...

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Really like the "no protection" and PGF over ASA!

Biggest joke in any type of national championship tournament. Can't wait for CWS, NFL, MLB, NBA, World Cup Soccer etc.... to adapt the PGF blind draw format.... stupid format.

Since there is no real ranking of teams in fastpitch what criteria would you use to seed?

You underestimate Bracky - he can rank the teams with the help of the coaches. It would be as accurate as anything TCS does...

Seriously, I'm guessing he would like to seed by pool play, but we know PGF won't do that.

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It is a shame having CA Knighten and BB meyers square off the first game. Both of these teams have a good change to win it all and going into that loser bracket after the first game calls for a long week. I would still bet that both teams will end up top 10, possibly top 5

I agree. CA-Knighten drew OCBB Maroon last year as the 2nd game of the first round - CA-KK finished 2nd and OCBB 7th.

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Maybe they need a ranking system like Triple Crown did. Even if it is not 100% correct which even in college they aren't it is better than nothing.

It is a shame having CA Knighten and BB meyers square off the first game. Both of these teams have a good change to win it all and going into that loser bracket after the first game calls for a long week. I would still bet that both teams will end up top 10, possibly top 5

If the brackets for 16s play the same as for 18s, losing the first game means you'd have to win 3 games Thursday, and then 7 games Friday, playing straight through without a break from a 8am start time to a 930pm start time. Is it just me or is that a bit crazy?

Why not a play couple of those Friday games on Saturday morning? and then the Championships in the afternoon? I mean, the whole weekend is available.

For Spazsdad: this isn't a complaint, it's a question.

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Does anyone really think the way TCS did it in NY was better?

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Does anyone really think the way TCS did it in NY was better?

How did they do it?

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Does anyone really think the way TCS did it in NY was better?

How did they do it?

PFM

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Does anyone really think the way TCS did it in NY was better?

How did they do it?

TCS came up with their own points system for a ranking and teams were seeded by their ranking.

I thought he was referring to the actual TCS brackets, which I just took a look at and it looks like they had several double elimination brackets, followed by single elimination brackets seeded from the double elimination.

Maybe it's better, who is to say? If it avoids making kids play 7 games in one day without a break, it's better in that regard. Unless you think it's a good thing to have kids play 7 games in one day, I guess.

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full 16u bracket? anyone?

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If the brackets for 16s play the same as for 18s, losing the first game means you'd have to win 3 games Thursday, and then 7 games Friday, ...

16s was not like 18s last year - 3 on Thur, 4 on Fri and 3-4 on Sat.

Why not a play couple of those Friday games on Saturday morning? and then the Championships in the afternoon?

PGF did that the first year, 2010 - the 18s played the Winner vs Loser games Saturday morning and I believe they were at HB.

They could also start the losers bracket on Wed instead of playing the 2nd round of the winners, but they probably don't want to eliminate teams Wed night.