Follow
Donate to HeyBucket.com - Amount:

Welcome Anonymous !

Your Fastpitch Softball Bible
 

NorCal

Don't be confused or mislead by rotational hitting...

by MrHittingCoach » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:00 am

It's a real shame that people label things for their own agenda. There is no such thing as a "linear swing" !!!

"Your swing is either short or long." Pat Murphy, UofAlabama- National Champs 2012

Don't be fooled. Good hitters get the barrel to the ball short and quick!
User avatar
MrHittingCoach
 
Posts: 43
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:56 pm
Location: Modesto, CA

by bmxbaby » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:28 pm

Spazsdad wrote:
MrHittingCoach wrote:It's a real shame that people label things for their own agenda. There is no such thing as a "linear swing" !!!

"Your swing is either short or long." Pat Murphy, UofAlabama- National Champs 2012

Don't be fooled. Good hitters get the barrel to the ball short and quick!

There most certainly is a linear swing. Thankfully those that taught it have either changed their ways or gone the way of the dinosaur.


I agree with you Spaz. I believe that Mr Hitting Coach believes there is no such thing. There are several distinctions:

I dont want to get in a big debate because I am not an expert but under my understanding
So called "rotational" Swing, After the stride and prior to launch, the rotational hitter drops the front heel, stablizes the front leg, establish a tilted axis and leads with the hips pulling the upper half
around the body; the big pulling the small, torque.

Linear:The linear hitter is taught to take the hands in a downward path towards the ball. Whether they are taught to throw the knob, or punch with their fist... whatever, that is irrelevant. What is relevant is the fact that the hands start before the hips, thus negating any type of torque. Granted the hips do rotate, but it is after the hands are released. Once the hands start before the hips, a hitter will never regain that lower body force and diminish a large majority of the lower body, bat speed and power. This is called disconnection and the body becomes unlinked. The hips are trying to play catch up and it will never happen. Linear hitters are labeled as upper body hitters because they separate from the lower body at the beginning of their swing.

There are many other differences but as you see the rotational description is a smaller or more efficient paragraph, :D j/k. if you can hit, you can hit. I think a kid should look at both and decide what feels natural. I don't like the terms rotational or linear but to the lamen folk we need to have labels as a baseline of understanding what we are paying for I guess. Then some instructors use the terminology loosely to get a student? Perhaps. But never the less there are big differences. My kid was always taught hands to the ball. She hit well with great averages. But no she is older and the OF is better...Hit it out of the park is a much better offense! Was hitting 210,215. Now its 230 240. Linears ground out a lot. "rotational" swingers pop up :roll:
Last edited by bmxbaby on Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
bmxbaby
 
Posts: 50
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:01 pm

by jonriv » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:19 am

I thought Linear vs Rotational discussions were banned? :o
User avatar
jonriv
 
Posts: 4875
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:01 am
Location: Connecticut

by DP3816 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:30 am

At the end of the day, just remember what my Dad used to tell me. "Hey Butch, swing hard in case you hit it".
DP3816
 
Posts: 224
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:14 am

by BearsDad » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:15 am

so linear is bad?
BearsDad
Premium Member
Premium Member
 
Posts: 124
Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:06 am

by bmxbaby » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:17 am

BearsDad wrote:so linear is bad?


Speaking only from my amateur opinion. Not sure one can ask that question because we like to focus on the title or label linear or rotational. Where as me personally am speaking about the different mechanics and actions involved through the swing plane. There are different charateristics between the two. We moved for efficiency and power purposes.

What's better Bugatti or Lamborghini. It becomes a matter of opinion
User avatar
bmxbaby
 
Posts: 50
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:01 pm

by BearsDad » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:38 pm

the reason I ask is because by this definition my DD would be labeled a linear swing. she hits very good and usually has one of if not the best batting ave on the team, just wondering if its something we should change?
BearsDad
Premium Member
Premium Member
 
Posts: 124
Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:06 am

by lookingIN » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:33 pm

BearsDad wrote:the reason I ask is because by this definition my DD would be labeled a linear swing. she hits very good and usually has one of if not the best batting ave on the team, just wondering if its something we should change?


If she hits good and is usually the best batter. Why listen to any one esle. If it aint broken dont fix it. jmo
lookingIN
 
Posts: 300
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:00 am


Return to NorCal