12u Season Rankings UPDATED 6/12

[JimineyCricket]

Zero, with the one exception of MVP, I believe all the coaching changes you mention took place between seasons. The MVP organization has had two coaches leave teams mid-season in the last year - this year's '00 team (who, as far as I know, didn't have a dd on the team, and didn't go somewhere else to coach), and last year's '99 team (who's coach quit on his team and took his dd to Roseville Heat mid-season, where he is now an asst. coach). I think between-season changes are very different than when a player quits a team mid-season (pretty bad, in my opinion) and another team makes room for her (even worse, in my opinion, although I understand and respect the position Uncle takes on the topic, even though I disagree with it). It also seems like you're saying that coaches, parents and players should all have an equal say about things like position and playing time. Couldn't disagree with you more on that one...

[zerotolerance]

Zero, with the one exception of MVP, I believe all the coaching changes you mention took place between seasons. The MVP organization has had two coaches leave teams mid-season in the last year - this year's '00 team (who, as far as I know, didn't have a dd on the team, and didn't go somewhere else to coach), and last year's '99 team (who's coach quit on his team and took his dd to Roseville Heat mid-season, where he is now an asst. coach). I think between-season changes are very different than when a player quits a team mid-season (pretty bad, in my opinion) and another team makes room for her (even worse, in my opinion, although I understand and respect the position Uncle takes on the topic, even though I disagree with it). It also seems like you're saying that coaches, parents and players should all have an equal say about things like position and playing time. Couldn't disagree with you more on that one...

I never said anything about mid-season changes or that anybody should have equal say in playing time. More responding to Uncle's comment that he has never seen committed parents and making a point that commitment and loyalty are a two-way street. Mid-season or not, changes happen for a lot of reasons and it really isn't anybody's business why people move. There's an old saying....."walk a mile in someone else's shoes before you try to judge their journey". In all fairness, if a player quits a team mid-season and you think that's pretty bad, it's possible that it must have been THAT bad for the player to feel the need to leave and not finish out the season, which could be a factor of the coaching staff. My recommendation, worry about your own DD only because in the end that's all you have control over and all that really matters in the big picture of things.

[Stealing Home]

Care Bear - how about a new name? You can go from Spirit Bear to Reality Bear.

DF Softball is calling your name now - they even have a silver bracket for you each week.

[noncrazynorcal]

Quite a bit of roster movement in the last month.

Wait a second You mean to tell me there was movement around Fresno Force????

Seems like every year a few teams either implode or get better based on movement around Fresno Force.

Hype lost #2 pitcher after Vegas.
Mizuno Coronado bennifited from that, Yet they still have not done anything since picking her up.
Breeze 00 I have heard lost 3 or 4 so far this season probably not a surprise to anyone who follows these teams
Team CA picked up 1 from the Breeze which should add another good bat and pitcher/fielder in the rotation.
MVP Imploded because of their coach (No surprise there) Was told another coach jumped in to save things.
Bombers lost 1 to Sac Hitterz.
Any others I missed???

Oh!!! and I here Heat Cota is losing a bunch to form a Lady Magic team.... Oh wait that rumor was started this time last year

Memorial Day is the next movement weekend... Are you next???

To answer the question from Stealing Home Yes Mizuno Coronado plays in pool H with Strike Force /Team Mizuno Esplain and KG Hitters.

12U All American Mizuno
We are looking for a few girls to add to our roster and finish off the Spring Season. We are looking for highly competitive and motivated girls that will be driven and focused. If you are interested please contact Coach Coronado

[Fly Out]

Congrats to Grapes K KG Hitters and Hype on finishing well in So Cal this weekend. Great weather and great softball for the Mothers Day Classic in Cerritos this weekend. For those of you who could not find the info on the weekend below is a list of how the Nor Cal teams did over all this weekend.

Grapes K 2 -1 Saturday - #1 seed - Final 4 Sunday - Lost to Artesia Punishers who was runner up - Overall 5 -2

KG Hitters 3-0 Saturday - #1 seed - Top 8 Sunday - Lost to Firecrackers 00 in top 8 who went on to win - Overall 5 -1

Rocklin Hype 1 - 2 Saturday - #3 seed - Top 8 Sunday - Lost to Cal Cruisers who finished top 4 - Overall 3 -3

Salinas Storm 2-1 Saturday - #2 seed - Top 16 - Lost to Firecrackers 00 who went on to win - Overall 3 -2

AASA Richardson 2-1 Saturday - #2 seed - Top 16 - Lost to Artesia Punishers who went on to runner up - Overall 3 -2

Fresno Force 01 1-1-1 Saturday - #2 seed - Top 16 - Lost to Combat Panthers - Overall 2 -2 -1

Team California 2-1 Saturday - #2 seed - Beat Artesia Punishers in pool play who was Tournament runner up - Lost to Hype game 1 Sunday - Overall 2 -2

AASA Virchis 1-1-1 Saturday - #3 seed - Lost to Cal Thunder on Sunday game 1 - Overall 1 -2 -1

Cen Cal Dirt Dogs 1-2 Saturday - #3 seed - Lost to Fresno Force 01 Sunday game 1 - Overall 1 -3

LTG Lions 1-2 Saturday - #3 seed - Beat Lady Magic in pool play - Lost to Salinas Storm Sunday game 1 - Overall 1 -3

Lady Magic 0-2-1 Saturday - #4 seed - Lost to KG Hitters Sunday game 1 - Overall 0 -3 -1

Grapettes Ervin 0-3 Saturday - #4 seed - Lost to Firecrackers 01 Sunday game 1 - Overall 0 -4

Lady Spartans 0-3 Saturday - # 4 seed - Lost to Firecrackers 00 Sunday game 1 - Overall 0 -4

All American Mizuno 0-3 Saturday - #4 seed - Lost to Combat Panthers Sunday game 1 - Overall 0 -4

[Chango15]

Congratulations to the KG Hitters and Grapettes-Kahwaty, the only two teams to play well this weekend.

There were 32 teams entered. The Hype finished 9th, going 3-3. A big disappointment for a second year team that has played together for awhile.

The "No More Magic" had another dismal weekend going 0-3-1 and getting beat by a 2001 team the LTG Lions! Good job Lions....BTW anyone heard from MagicMike lately????

I'm very disappointed in NorCal 12u teams this season.

[Kool-Aid]

Not sure what your so disappointed about, NorCal created its own problems with the addition of so many more 12U teams over last few years. It wasnt too long ago that 12u in Norcal had some really strong teams that went deep into championship play. So you get what you ask for, you want a few strong teams or a bunch of avg teams?


Secondly, heard there was some excitement between two NorCal teams down in LA during pool play...

[Tyler Durden]

Not sure what your so disappointed about, NorCal created its own problems with the addition of so many more 12U teams over last few years. It wasnt too long ago that 12u in Norcal had some really strong teams that went deep into championship play. So you get what you ask for, you want a few strong teams or a bunch of avg teams?


Secondly, heard there was some excitement between two NorCal teams down in LA during pool play...

Do tell.

[noncrazynorcal]

Not sure what your so disappointed about, NorCal created its own problems with the addition of so many more 12U teams over last few years. It wasnt too long ago that 12u in Norcal had some really strong teams that went deep into championship play. So you get what you ask for, you want a few strong teams or a bunch of avg teams?


Secondly, heard there was some excitement between two NorCal teams down in LA during pool play...

Yeah, there's too many teams, but the absence of a bunch of 12u powerhouses makes the tournaments and especially Sunday action more varied and unpredictable. Who cares if these teams don't compete as well against the best from SoCal, because they are only going to meet up 2-3 times anyway.

And they are starting to get some of this down there, too. There's way more teams in So Cal now than there used to be, so the same watering down is occurring.

[Tyler Durden]

Not sure what your so disappointed about, NorCal created its own problems with the addition of so many more 12U teams over last few years. It wasnt too long ago that 12u in Norcal had some really strong teams that went deep into championship play. So you get what you ask for, you want a few strong teams or a bunch of avg teams?


Secondly, heard there was some excitement between two NorCal teams down in LA during pool play...

Yeah, there's too many teams, but the absence of a bunch of 12u powerhouses makes the tournaments and especially Sunday action more varied and unpredictable. Who cares if these teams don't compete as well against the best from SoCal, because they are only going to meet up 2-3 times anyway. And they are starting to get some of this down there, too. There's way more teams in So Cal now than there used to be, so the same watering down is occurring.

This sums up what the problem in NorCal is.