12u Season Rankings UPDATED 6/12

[off the walls]

Well said lockdown!

[Spirit Bear]

"caught stealing home" It is funny how you talk about a team "Mizuno" and have never seen them play. I can tell you are not a caliber type person when you hide behind a fake name. Only time will tell! Just like you "caught stealing home" I'm OUT!!!

[Heisenberg]

Hey Lockdown I think you need to cooldown before you have a meltdown. I was actually trying to give the Breeze some props since they werent playing like 10's. They were very skilled on both sides of the ball. As for the Angels tactics you'll need to talk with them. I was just an observer after my DD's team got tossed.

[JimineyCricket]

HIJACKING ALERT!!! - Can we please get the 10u discussion moved to the 10u board, so we can get back to talking 12u?

Quite a bit of roster movement in the last month (looks like Breeze '00 and Team California, most recently) and I hear that there are a couple more sets of parents already putting feelers out to jump ship on their other new teams (surprise, surprise - not!). It's going to be an interesting time in 12u between now and Metros, that's for sure!

[Sftball Junkie]

Quite a bit of roster movement in the last month.

Wait a second You mean to tell me there was movement around Fresno Force????

Seems like every year a few teams either implode or get better based on movement around Fresno Force.

Hype lost #2 pitcher after Vegas.
Mizuno Coronado bennifited from that, Yet they still have not done anything since picking her up.
Breeze 00 I have heard lost 3 or 4 so far this season probably not a surprise to anyone who follows these teams
Team CA picked up 1 from the Breeze which should add another good bat and pitcher/fielder in the rotation.
MVP Imploded because of their coach (No surprise there) Was told another coach jumped in to save things.
Bombers lost 1 to Sac Hitterz.
Any others I missed???

Oh!!! and I here Heat Cota is losing a bunch to form a Lady Magic team.... Oh wait that rumor was started this time last year

Memorial Day is the next movement weekend... Are you next???

To answer the question from Stealing Home Yes Mizuno Coronado plays in pool H with Strike Force /Team Mizuno Esplain and KG Hitters.

[JimineyCricket]

At this point, coaches ought to be asking themselves if these midseason additions are the right move to be making. Is it really worth it to bring in a decent bat or #2 pitcher, if you're going to be that player's EIGHTH team since she started TB in 10u? If the last group of coaches, parents and teammates aren't sorry to see a player and her family move on mid-season, why bring them in to potentially wreck what you've been building for the last several months? Aren't you better off trying to develop the players you committed to (and who committed to you) at the start of your season?

[uncle]

Commitmments

Doesn't look like there is a whole lot of commitment going around. Hype pitcher leaving, breeze players, Grapettes, etc. if I was a coach I'd pick up anyone that was good. This is A ball not rec league.

[JimineyCricket]

Uncle, are you saying that if it's mid-season, and you've got a chance to pick up, say, a third baseman that may currently be better than the one you've got, but brings with her a terrible attitude, nightmare parent(s), and a suitcase full of hardly-worn TB uniforms in various colors, you're going to pick her up and kick your old third baseman to the bench or to the curb? Wouldn't you and your team be better off in the long run if you passed on the trouble and put your effort into developing the players you have?

[uncle]

hmmm, why not? parents will never be happy or committed. A 12U team will not stay together forever. Only in fairy tales. Iv'e been around this for about 15yrs with my daughter and nieces and yet! i have seen a committed parent. They talk the good talk but remember... They are in it for one purpose, Thier daughter!

A) 12yr old kids aint that bad, thier kids.
B) As a coach you should follow up with those bitchy ass parents. And tell them nothing is promised.
C) Maybe the current thirdbase player will challenge herself and put in extra work to keep her job.

[zerotolerance]

Speaking of commitment, isn't that a two-way street? Seems to me there should be some accountability on the part of coaches. Let's look at movement from Fall to Spring in the 12u's....hmmmmm. Assistant Coach of Heat Cota team quits on his team to take his two dd's to Hype, which causes Hype coach to cut loose committed players. Breeze '00 Head coach and Assistant Coach quit on their team to take dd's and select core to a new team leaving several players hanging without a coach. Assistant coach of the Rapids quits on his team and takes his dd's to new team and Assistant coach on Heat Cota takes his dd and select core players to new team leaving several players hanging and recently word was MVP coach quit on his team. So, the lesson here is that coaches that want respect, loyalty and commitment they need to lead by example. If it is okay for them to move thier dd's to a better opportunity, then it should be equally okay for parents to do the same. These coaches are parents too, so it doesn't make parents terrible people to make a decision that puts their dd in the best possible position and seek out the best opportunity for herself, especially if you get the distinct feeling that the coach doesn't have her back or believe in her as much as he believes in his own dd and other players on the team. The expectation that players should work harder to earn or keep their position is equivalent to coaches being expected to work hard to develop ALL of the players on the team and show measurable improvement from the beginning of a season to the end. So, if people want to speculate, gossip and spread rumors as to why playes leave teams and movement occurs, most likely it's a combination of coach not meeting player/family expectations and player/family not meeting coaches expectations, shared responsibility. In the end, everyone is playing ball somewhere and hopefully the girls are meeting or exceeding their personal goals and having fun in the process.