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by Ovr Weight N Bald » Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:36 pm

watchtonsofsoftball wrote:Ok alittle perspective here from someone whos payed attention the past few years. I'm not saying Granger isnt any good, but what exactly has she done? I think they have an OK team but they aren't a national level team and doesnt look like they ever will have a national level team. Im not saying you have to win a National, but they are a 2 and BBQ team. Shes had enough years to produce some results and there is a fair amount of turnover which is never good. A couple years back the team looked promising but have never really got over the hump. And winning metros isnt what it used to be. I guess I need someone to give me her coaching resume not her playing one. Im not hating...believe me, I'm not. Im just sayin......


Since You asked... Oh n keep in mind Ganger's silverstreak team who has done nothing qualified and went to Nationals last year was a 1st year 14u team. The team who qualified for 16u Nats this year was a second year 14u team with 3 16u players on it. Those 2 n BBQ tourneys you speak of I believe was when her 14 year old's were playing 18G and in 16u in places other local teams could not get into. I agree winning metros 2 years in a row might not mean much however if you ask the teams they beat my bet is they would have liked to have had that honor... Oops sorry got off track. Here you go.

Prior to being a mom and raising a family local youth coach/pitching coach in the area
Granger coached at the University of Tennessee from 2001-2004
Pitching coach at San Jose State University 2001
Pitching coaching for the University of California, Davis, from 1997-2000.
I know she was a coach on the US National team at one point as well just don't know the dates.

I can see where you might favor the Local dad around the corner for what ever Org you choose however my money is on Granger as the more qualified coach.
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by Sftball Junkie » Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:58 pm

watchtonsofsoftball wrote: It takes dedication by the parents and it helps if you know what your doing. Time will tell if Granger can get her kids to college programs. I seriously doubt it and if people are waiting for her "connections" they will be fooled once again!!!!


I love when people throw things out about others not knowing.

You should know Michele works with hundred's of Colleges from all over the US tracking west coast athletes and sending scouting reports to schools from big tourneys all over the west coast including Nationals. (My older daughter was scouted by her for a school) If you saw this list of schools who has come out and watched her athletes play this year you would probably be surprised. That said Schools do not pick athletes based on a relationship with a coach or a liasion. The athlete and parents have to be realistic and understand what type of athlete they are. As someone who has been through the process I am sure you are well aware that a coach or liasion can only do so much, Grades, preforming while being tracked and improving along the way, along with having parents who are not Ass Hats is a big part.
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by watchtonsofsoftball » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:18 am

I want you to be right about Granger so I wont argue about her anymore. If you like her, great!

As far as quailifying for ASA Nationals and winning metros....... As I said before it isnt what it used to be or mean here in NorCal. Why? Premier is attracting the top teams and they arent attending Metros anymore. Im not saying her team is horrible but its not even top 20 in NorCal. I've been up and down the recruiting process for quite a while so I dont need to be schooled on the process. Having coaches taking looks at your team is a far cry from getting kids recruited. Coaches take looks at LOTS of teams. You have to be able to get them to RETURN to see your team play. That means INTEREST! Thousands of kids/ coaches get schools to come out to watch them. That really means nothing. If you are getting blown out by another team on that day, chances are they wont be coming back. Or if they see a lot of players not at the level they are looking for , they will keep moving. The recruiting window isnt as big as most people think it is. Especially if your looking at D1 and hoping to get above 60%. If your wasting time on a team that isnt geared PROPERLY for the recruiting process well you get what you deserve for not doing your due diligence. Many knowledgeable people out there and on this site. Its up to you to choose to listen or keep defending whatever program your at who has no track history of getting it done. There are atleast 3 programs I can think off hand that can get your kid SOMETHING, just based on their reputation with college coaches.
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by Crazy4SftBl » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:42 pm

Well let's see if history will repeat itself here. If the leader of CPYC has his daughter on the team then you know that the program is clearly being built around her again (she is a great kid but it's sad that he buys people for her). Let her work hard and earn a spot on an elite team like the other girls had to do. Some of us can't buy a team much less lesson. He has scouted very talented teams in the area and offered a paid coaching position to the coaches (several have turned him down-didn't want to sell out). If a highly skilled team comes on board and his daughter is on the team then you know history is repeating itself. All was great last season with TC until his daughter sat the bench. It was very clear to him in the start of the season that she would not see much "field time" as she was years behind the other girls. When she was riding the pine (as he would say) he came unglued and threatened to pull the plug if the coaches didn't play his daughter. This was a very public tantrum thrown by him on several occasions. Ask anyone that was on the real TC. It will be very interesting to see if he can buy a spot on another elite team for his kid. I guess that money can buy everything. Sad that CPYC isn't helping kids in need. Hopefully his ego won't crush this program again. Sorry but I have no love for that guy.. it makes me so upset that our daughters that battled to make TC and his daughter walked right on being YEARS behind the girls. And when things didn't play out for his daughter the way he wanted he crushed the program! Shattering 12 little girls dream! Now TC is back because he has managed a way to weasel his way back in with his cash! Now he will do it again to another set of innocent families. I may sound bitter and maybe I am but that is because MY daughter was on the team and had EARNED her spot on the team! Maybe I will win the lotto and she won't need to work hard anymore and I can buy a program to fit her needs as well! HAHAHAHAHA :D
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by Crazy4SftBl » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:54 pm

Am I the only one that thinks this is wrong on so many levels? Shouldn't someone look into the legal side of this? I am sure that somewhere it's illegal to have a non-profit built around 1 family??? A complaint was made to the CPYC board after the last disaster and was brushed under the rug to no surprise being that over 1/2 of the board were family members of C.E. and the others were long time family friends. Hmmmm It's a wonder why he get's away with so much. Just funny how he ripped away the program from the other girls when it didn't work for his daughter. Now he is starting the program up again and his daughter just happens to be on the team AGAIN but this time with a different coach. A team that she would have never made. I AM not one to say anything about kids but it's apparent when she is so behind the other girls. All I have to say is WOW! Hopefully Garcia will stand his ground and hope this situation works for him. Especially since he has worked so hard to make a name for his team. Makes you wonder why on earth he would change his name to one so flawed (or could it be the $1,000 he will be paid a month to coach from CPYC). I don't think that Jose's parents would stand for the things that happened last season on TC. LK's hands were tied and she was unable to coach. Jose's parents would probably walk early on in the season and look for another team if he pulled the same crap. Not worth all of the BS for a "so called FREE ride" if you ask me. I feel really bad for the new set of parents.. they have no idea what C.E. is capable of. Hopefully they see thru the lies. Good luck to the girls on the team I really hope it works for their sake... they could have a rough season ahead of them. :(
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by sportykids » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:52 pm

Eaton's daughter will be on a great team. She will only get better, which we want for all the girls.
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by neighborsherry » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:09 pm

Am I the only one that thinks this is wrong on so many levels? Shouldn't someone look into the legal side of this? I am sure that somewhere it's illegal to have a non-profit built around 1 family??? A complaint was made to the CPYC board after the last disaster and was brushed under the rug to no surprise being that over 1/2 of the board were family members of C.E. and the others were long time family friends. Hmmmm It's a wonder why he get's away with so much. Just funny how he ripped away the program from the other girls when it didn't work for his daughter. Now he is starting the program up again and his daughter just happens to be on the team AGAIN but this time with a different coach. A team that she would have never made. I AM not one to say anything about kids but it's apparent when she is so behind the other girls. All I have to say is WOW! Hopefully Garcia will stand his ground and hope this situation works for him. Especially since he has worked so hard to make a name for his team. Makes you wonder why on earth he would change his name to one so flawed (or could it be the $1,000 he will be paid a month to coach from CPYC). I don't think that Jose's parents would stand for the things that happened last season on TC. LK's hands were tied and she was unable to coach. Jose's parents would probably walk early on in the season and look for another team if he pulled the same crap. Not worth all of the BS for a "so called FREE ride" if you ask me. I feel really bad for the new set of parents.. they have no idea what C.E. is capable of. Hopefully they see thru the lies. Good luck to the girls on the team I really hope it works for their sake... they could have a rough season ahead of them.


What are you talking about Garcia? Is he running the new 12u team? That doesn't make any sense.
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by Crazy4SftBl » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:48 pm

Mizuno Garcia is moving his entire team to TC. He has been hired by TC to coach the 14's team. $1,000 a month.
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by plyball » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:37 pm

He sold his team for $1,000 a month? That doesn't sound right. Is Granger on the payroll too? Sounds like a Bucket rumor to me. I bet the team gets the money not the coach.
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by RonaldMcDonald » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:41 pm

What are the other exiting Mizuno coaches going to get? Are they leaving or is KJ trimming the fat?
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