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by onlooker » Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:08 pm

PGF is trying to capture market share, why wouldnt they invite a bunch of teams/orgs that are well respected in their own marketplace to "fill up" their draw? This is NOT a softball dilemma (invites) It is part of the business model to create revenue. It can only mean that the guys at PGF recognize that's its not just about quality to get their feet off of the ground, but quantity MUST be there to stay above. While PGF is a big goal for a lot of us in Cal, it still is trying to win out everywhere else....the challenge of the american dream.

If you have no idea why LTG Lions are going then you are really not understanding how relationships run a lot of softball. LTG, albeit youthful in age, is senior in relationships in Northern California.

Quantity is wayyyy more important at this stage since the quality teams qualify. GO PGF! I am all for your success on a grand scale. Quality will be the top 12 in the end, no matter who qualified or was invited.
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by POP Time » Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:52 pm

The word Invite Kills me!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Funny how Face Book works!!! I love that you are able to see post that others who you don't even put up when people like or comment on them. The post I saw this am was something to the effect of. And the invites keep coming!! First Best of the West and now PGF. So proud of how the LTG Lions are playing…

Not to burst any bubbles BUT The email that was sent for Best Of The West was over 80 coaches deep and you were not on it or on the list of invited teams. When they got to the end and were trying to fill the field your coach called and they said. “Why not, we will take anyone at this point.” As for PGF I would not call Henderson calling in a favor an invite an invite. I would call that a favor. Enjoy your trips to So Cal but please keep it real when throwing the word invite.

I have attached the Best of the west email and invite for your review.

12u OC Batbusters Best of the West June 22-23
Best of the West Invitational Tournament. (PGF rules.)
Presented by OCBB2K & Valley Tribe Productions.

June 22 & 23

Cost is $525.00

Location- La Mirada & Westminster CA

Pool play to single elimination.

Please download the entry form and mail in with your post dated check for June 1st. to ensure your spot.


Accepted & Confirmed Teams

OC Batbusters-Moore
Corona Angels-Tyson
Power Surge-Teal
Cal Cruisers
So Cal Breakers
Lil Rebels
CA Rapids
Lady Magic
Salinas Storm
AZ Hotshots Elite
Liberty 2000
AZ Cats
AZ Suncats
Artesia Punishers
OC Batbusters 00



Invited Teams

So Cal Athletics-Fernando
Firecrackers-Aurajo
Firecrackers-Anthony
Courage
CA Raiders
AZ Thunder Cats
Killer Bees
Grapettes
Team CA
Cal Thunder 2000
Team Mizuno- Briggs
So Cal Wicked-Acuna
Combat Panthers
KG Hitters
Fresno Force
WA Acers
OR Panthers

(More teams may be added)

Please contact Danny Moore 310/741-1988 ocbb2k@gmail.com
If you would like your team to be considered.
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by sir88 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:39 pm

That's pretty interesting POP. :lol:
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by sir88 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:27 pm

Anyone know how the norcal teams did down south?
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by Chango15 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:21 pm

I agree POP. All this invite stuff is nothing but favors and politics. PGF has lost my respect. It's fine for showcases but when they start calling their tournaments championships and Nationals and qualifiers, they are misleading parents. These events are nothing more than tournaments; nothing more.
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by Tenshun » Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:17 pm

Chango15 wrote:I agree POP. All this invite stuff is nothing but favors and politics. PGF has lost my respect. It's fine for showcases but when they start calling their tournaments championships and Nationals and qualifiers, they are misleading parents. These events are nothing more than tournaments; nothing more.

PGF invites are the epitome of the old boys network, but the PGF championship is definitely more than that. If you disagree, show up with an undeserved invite and be prepared to have your clock cleaned. The best of the best play PGF. Period.
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by Gut » Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:29 pm

[quote="POP Time"]The word Invite Kills me!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Funny how Face Book works!!! I love that you are able to see post that others who you don't even put up when people like or comment on them. The post I saw this am was something to the effect of. And the invites keep coming!! First Best of the West and now PGF. So proud of how the LTG Lions are playing…

I think that Facebook quote was a typo. I think they meant to say, "And the invites keep coming!! First Best of the West and now PGF. So proud of how the LTG Lions are PAYING..." :o :o :o :o :o
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by Safe under the tag » Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:49 pm

Very true Gut, it's more about the money than the competition, but some will look at it as opportunity and experience. The problem is the dilution of the product. PGF will lose more quality teams in the long run by bringing in teams that did not earn their way in.
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by NorCalBaller123 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:02 pm

Is this the 12u ranking thread or a PGF thread??
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by Tenshun » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:15 pm

NorCalBaller123 wrote:Is this the 12u ranking thread or a PGF thread??

Huh? If you're not playing for PGF or ASA Nationals, what are you playing for? Otherwise a local ranking is meaningless.
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