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by Rocket Scientist » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:45 am

Iluvblue wrote:You are right... im wrong. Having a kid swing and miss at a pitch so you can steal 2nd base is the way to do things. heck, I see it done like that in the 10u rec games all the time, so it must be correct.


Tutte le stradde portano a Roma (All roads lead to Rome) is an expression often used to mean that there are many different ways to arrive somewhere or achieve something.

Your way is not the ONLY correct way.
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by Iluvblue » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:11 am

I never said my way is the only way, but if you think using rec ball strategies against legit teams is a way that will get you to Rome, you will be taking a cab from Paris to Italy:)


There are many, many ways to coach. Look at Jimmy Johnson VS Tom Landry, Tony Dungy vs Bobby Knight. But there are certain things in games that are just WRONG..... not in my opinion, but just WRONG.

Lets say you are tied in the bottom of the 7th inning and a team has a runner at 3rd with no outs. Deciding to walk the bases loaded or not is not right or wrong. It is just a choice a coach can make knowing the batters coming up, knowing the accuracy of his pitcher.... many variables that go into making that decision. But the decision would be NEITHER right or wrong. Now deciding to walk them loaded and then leaving your OF at normal depth.... again WRONG.


Now, being down by 2 runs in the last inning and getting a lead off single and then deciding to try and steal 2nd base... that would be WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. That wouldnt be my opinion that it is wrong, it would just be wrong.

Now if you think it might not be wrong...... then you might be one of the coaches im referring to and I thank you every time we play.
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by GameTime23 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:14 am

Blue step your game up and call it how you see it....they do it to you all the time.

Hard to read between the lines... You take the words stud/great and act like the rankings are just about that.

You are a very good coach and you treated my kid very good when she guest played for u 12s....but 50% of people have neg things to say about you being loud, brash, over confident or they wouldnt play for you.

Your older teams are very good and compete......but these other coaches do a great job and there 14s teams do it on Sundays when it matters....

Blue your still my boy......Go Cowboys!!!!!!!
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by Iluvblue » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:36 am

You are WAY off. 50% of the people dont say that...... make it more like 90% of the people and we might be getting close lol.

You know how many times I have heard someone say they would never have their kid play for me? and then for some reason they do play for me, and then they are pretty happy.

I coach my teams on the field because that is what works for me. I cant worry about the people in the stands who dont like the way I coach.

Brash?? Maybe, overconfident? Didnt know you could be too confident...

Loud....... is that bad? Now if they said i abused a kid.. that would be BAD. If they said I lied to parents and players? That would be bad. If they said I didnt teach my players? that would be bad. If im accused of the things you say above.... guilty as charged.

Having someone that has never been at one of my practices, never had their kid in my dugout, and never seen the relationships I have with my players say they would never have their kid play for me??/ uhmmmm who cares.


Back to the rankings, I didnt say I disagreed with them.... just said the praise reaped on some coaches is a bit of a stretch IMO.
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by Iluvblue » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:54 am

Also.... I give credit where it is due. The coach of the Stockton Starz( I think that is correct) coached a GREAT game in his team's loss to the Grapettes Acuna.
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by GameTime23 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:03 pm

It's all good....I respect your input and honesty on the bucket.....

But even more my kid could play for you....besides the 130 miles in between us...hehehaha

I really like your coaching style it would wk for me for sure. I'm ex marine and a believer in the old school coaching of D.Ford.......much respect to you and what your girls do on and off the field.....

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by rbi » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:11 pm

Would someone please define for me what it takes to be a "stud" coach, and "stud" player, really just curious what people think?
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by Iluvblue » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:32 pm

Thank you RBI.... maybe that is what I should have said to begin with.

i will give you my definition of a "Stud player."

That kid is simply a game changer. That player makes your team SIGNIFICANTLY better when she is on the field. That is a player that can run the bases like nobody's business, can hit CONSISTENTLY HARD shots, that makes plays on defense that most others can not do.

How do you spot them? They stick out like a sore thumb. When Alyssa Haber played 12u against us back when my oldest was playing 12u, we were already walking her intentionally as she was simply better than we were. Fast forward 9-10 years and that stud was on team USA. That is a stud player by my definition.

Oh..... im not implying that only kids that play for team USA are the studs.
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by GameTime23 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:18 pm

Hello.RBI.......

Stud coach......someone that knows the game, devlopes all of there players and will play there top 9 when it matters.......NO daddy/mommy or Lesson ball either!!!!!! Female college players can change the culture of a team....impact there players and the play on field....very motivating and challening....


Stud player.....impact player that leads by example at practice and games...along with lessons and side work that will impact there play on field and make peers compete and be better....aka Big Fish.....GOT big Fish?
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by Tenshun » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:03 pm

Iluvblue wrote:You know how many times I have heard someone say they would never have their kid play for me? and then for some reason they do play for me, and then they are pretty happy.

I coach my teams on the field because that is what works for me. I cant worry about the people in the stands who dont like the way I coach.

Brash?? Maybe, overconfident? Didnt know you could be too confident...

uhmmmm who cares.

I didnt say I disagreed with them.... just said the praise reaped on some coaches is a bit of a stretch IMO.


Since you’re having fun defining words like “stud”, I’ll play along as well.

Overconfidence, by its very definition signifies a distasteful characteristic.

When a team is overconfident, they take their opponents lightly and do not properly prepare. The results are often very embarrassing. When Overconfidence loses (which happens often), it makes excuses and then pretends to be even more confident.

Overconfidence is knowing you’ll win before you even step on the field; knowing you’re better before you even compete. Overconfidence is often used as a crutch to mask insecurities and is often accompanied by a lack of preparation and practice.

Confidence on the other hand is completely the opposite. Confidence comes from being comfortable with your abilities and knowing you’re prepared and capable of competing. Confidence comes from knowing that win or lose, you left it all on the field.

True confidence doesn’t need to talk about its own greatness and it isn’t afraid to talk about the greatness of others.

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