12u Season Rankings UPDATED 6/12

[OverTheFence]

Ya, and have you seen how tiny the crow hops are in college when they are called illegal by the umps??? Anything close to a crow hop should be discouraged at this age. Didn't Ally Carda have problems with crow hoping this year and last at UCLA????? And, no I am not a parent of a child who has played against the Rapids, just an observer who noticed it a long time ago.

[JimineyCricket]

OverTheFence - you obviously signed up for HeyBucket just to call out a 12 year-old pitcher who occasionally crow-hops (but who usually dominates the competition). Maybe it makes you feel good about yourself, or takes your mind off the issues with your DD or her teammates' issues. Whatever. Time to stop being OverTheFence and go back to UnderTheBridge where the rest of you trolls live.

[linedriveIknowyouie]

Sacramento had one even more dramatic in 12u this weekend. Foothill Gold '00 down 1 to Rapids in the bottom of the eighth inning (ITB), runner on second, two outs, 2-1 count, and the batter puts a wheel-house fastball over the left-field fence for a 2-run walk-off home run.

Maybe when the FC coaches get here from SoCal, they can teach how to intentionally walk the opposing team's best hitter when first is open with two outs.

Cricket - You think you are so clever.  What a typical NorCal parent.  You run your mouth when you have no idea what your talking about.  They were pitching around her and the kid made a very unfortunate mistake that the opposing player took advantage of.  That was quite obvious.  Are you stupid enough to believe that a "wheel-house" fastball was the pitch that was called?  C'mon, even you are better than that.  Did you even notice where the catcher was setting up?  If not, she was way off the plate.  Like you have said many times about others, when you constantly run your mouth and are stupid about it, people find out. After all, it's clueless parents like you that have created the toxic culture that we have in NorCal. 

[sir88]

Ya, and have you seen how tiny the crow hops are in college when they are called illegal by the umps??? Anything close to a crow hop should be discouraged at this age. Didn't Ally Carda have problems with crow hoping this year and last at UCLA????? And, no I am not a parent of a child who has played against the Rapids, just an observer who noticed it a long time ago.

I'm sure she had a few illegal pitches called. Maybe you should focus on your kid or team which every had a problem with the Rapids pitcher. Or you should offer to be her new pitching instructor. Find me a 12u team that doesn't have a pitcher that throws illegal pitches.

[OverTheFence]

Jiminey, I'm not calling out the pitcher. It's the coaches, the parents, the pitching instructors! She, the pitcher, deserves better!

Also can't believe this quote from sir88 " Find me a 12u team that doesn't have a pitcher that throws illegal pitches."

I personally don't understand this attitude. Can't believe what is happening here! I've seen plenty of 12U teams with NO pitchers throwing illegal pitches.

[sir88]

Every 12u team I've seen this year has a pitcher/pitchers that throw illegal pitches. You really think that nobody has said anything? These are 12/13 yr old girls who are still learning. Do you sit in on ger lessons? Maybe they are in the process of fixing it. The bottom line is it bothered you enough to set up an account to call whoever out.

[OverTheFence]

Yes, I did set up an account just to discuss this matter. I can't tell you how pleased I was to see Foothill Gold beat the Rapids at Metros, because the issue came up during that game, that's what brought it up to the forefront for me and NO, I do not have any connection to the Foothill Gold team. One of the biggest problems seems to be that the umpires don't know what an illegal pitch is. The best way for a pitcher to break a bad habit like this, is to be called on it. If it keeps getting a pass then nothing is going to happen. This is not Rec Ball!

[noncrazynorcal]

Speaking of the Rapids - Is there anyone out there who thinks, other than a few of us, that their #1 pitcher crow hops??? Sad thing to see at this age level, it should have been corrected at 10U.

Jiminey, I find that a strange response to my post. Why shouldn't it be discussed here? Don't you feel it is important for a pitcher to learn how to pitch legally and most of all don't you think it is the coach's and parent's RESPONSIBILITY to see that she does so she won't get into serious trouble as she advances through the age divisions???? (Of course then we have to include the umpires that should know the rules and be calling illegal pitches.) It would not be too cool to be pitching in a 14U, 16U or 18U championship game, have an umpire who knows what an illegal pitch is, make that call with the winning run on third base! It even happens in college, which I find absolutely astounding! Where were these girl's pitching instructors or coaches during all those developing years?? It isn't the pitcher's fault, it is the fault of their instructors and coaches.
12U is huge when it comes to developing proper mechanics and when a pitcher consistently throws illegal pitches, she should be called on it.

Ya, and have you seen how tiny the crow hops are in college when they are called illegal by the umps??? Anything close to a crow hop should be discouraged at this age. Didn't Ally Carda have problems with crow hoping this year and last at UCLA????? And, no I am not a parent of a child who has played against the Rapids, just an observer who noticed it a long time ago.

Jiminey, I'm not calling out the pitcher. It's the coaches, the parents, the pitching instructors! She, the pitcher, deserves better!

Also can't believe this quote from sir88 " Find me a 12u team that doesn't have a pitcher that throws illegal pitches."

I personally don't understand this attitude. Can't believe what is happening here! I've seen plenty of 12U teams with NO pitchers throwing illegal pitches.

Yes, I did set up an account just to discuss this matter. I can't tell you how pleased I was to see Foothill Gold beat the Rapids at Metros, because the issue came up during that game, that's what brought it up to the forefront for me and NO, I do not have any connection to the Foothill Gold team. One of the biggest problems seems to be that the umpires don't know what an illegal pitch is. The best way for a pitcher to break a bad habit like this, is to be called on it. If it keeps getting a pass then nothing is going to happen. This is not Rec Ball!

Not only are you crazy, you're also a jerk.

[newtohb2012]

OverTheFence (what's that supposed to mean?)

What an absolute ignorant statement to be making regarding a pitcher that is 12 years old and and still learning the game and her position. You OBVIOUSLY do not have a pitcher for a daughter. You OBVIOUSLY haven't spent countless hours on a bucket catching said pitcher daughter. You OBVIOUSLY haven't spent the additional $40 a week on your daughters game over that last few years. Hey, maybe you should, there are many instructors out there that give fielding and hitting lessons too! Pitchers don't get to just show up to a couple of week night practices to work on their game, they throw just about every night of the week. They do this because they have a team dependent on her to get it in the zone, both the batters and the umpires. If you think for one minute the pitcher, parents and pitching coach in question are not aware of a replant issue if there is one, you are even more than just ignorant, you plain ol' stupid!

It's OBVIOUS because trust me, you would not be making that comment! Shame on you for picking on a child! Bully!

[softballmom73]

But how bout that hit by #36 from Foothill Gold - what a stud! Was a great game played by both teams! Our games had ended and we came over to watch "the" game of the weekend battle it out. Was proud of all the girls on both teams. But that hit.....