12u Fall tryouts-Who are favorites & sleepers going forward?

[jbl1465]

Halfhaole don't get so fired up its just one persons opinion. And just for the record the Gold is good and will be one of the teams to beat but not THE team to beat. LTG went down south and won in the silver bracket and OBS played up in 14s this weekend. POP keep up the good work. I asked for your reasoning so I feel a little responsible for the backlash. I for the record like Perez but I can appreciate your opinion. Now lets put this to bed and get back to the ranking! I don't think a new ranking after every tournament is necessary but I do think KG is moving up. They have had two strong finishes in the last two tourneys.

[POP Time]

Pop,

I'm a parent on the Foothill Gold 01. The coaches are as dedicated to any softball team and getting better. Every parent on the team seems to pleased with the girls improvement this year.

Key statement in that is seem to be pleased, keep in mind I know at least 8 of them who were at other teams tryouts in fall. That is not a sign of happy… Careful you might be the last one on the dance floor when the rest have left the party.

The fact that they are now the team to beat having won their last three tourneys in the fall gives reason for some JACK ASS like you to bad mouth a coach which you know nothing about.

This statement alone shows me how little you know about the larger picture. Winning 3 tourneys in Nor Cal during the fall season means nothing.
Ask LTG how being one of the top Nor Cal teams helped them last weekend in their 19th place finish down south.
Then again you are probably one of those who post on Facebook and Tweet all of your friends, about how your team won the championship when you win the Silver Bracket…

The Gold 01 will be the top contender going into spring, and those haters will try to do whatever it takes to keep their talent from going elsewhere.

Haters have nothing to do with it the talent will leave as soon as they figure out their coach has no plan to get them to the next level.

[bigballer]

Pop,
You did a great job on your bracket. Don't let a disgruntled parent get you off track. Their statement doesn't even dignify a response. Keep up the good work!

[Old man softball]

Good job POP time I like a little attitude on the bucket. Keeps it interesting keep calling out the parents that think ybarras tournaments are the big time!!

[POP Time]

Ask LTG how being one of the top Nor Cal teams helped them last weekend in their 19th place finish down south.

I was just talking with a friend who is a softball dad about my comment above and I don’t want all the LTG parents looking for a building to jump off… don't take that wrong, I think your 19th place finish down south this weekend is a lot better showing then a few wins in Roseville. At least you guys have the stones to travel and see where you guys are at in the big picture. Just shows that whether you buy what he is selling or not at least you coach has a plan.

[jbl1465]

Pop don't let a few comments get you off track of ranking. Saying it takes "stones" to go down south implies that teams are staying up here because the are afraid to go south. Remember this is fall and with school and work there is a lot more to take in to consideration with travel. I get your not a Gold coaching staff fan but the Gold did go down to the CenCal showcase ( crap tournament but when they signed up it looked good) and they are playing in Chino Hills in Nov. Breeze has a SoCal trip on the schedule. I don't know OBS schedule but with that org. I'm sure they have a trip or two on the books.. None of the top teams look to be afraid of competition or going down south but you can't make 6 trips down in the fall at 12u. I know a lot of folks like to make fun of Gary's tournament but unless you are playing deep into Sunday on a routine basis your just wasting money by traveling down south. Maybe I'm off base but whether you get run ruled by the Corona Angles or the Our Lady of the lakes County Golden Elite All American Smashers (yes I had fun with that one) the only difference is the lower number in your bank account and the higher number on your odometer. So since there seems to be a break with the ranking, how much travel in the fall is reasonable for an upper level 01 team?

[noncrazynorcal]

If you've got the time and money, take your talent down south and see what you net. It isn't the best financial or competitive decision for most 12u teams, but if a team feels it is above average in this area and that they are not seeing enough good competition in NorCal, let them make the trips. If you are consistently playing the best competition you can find, then your team is going to most likely get better.

Is it worth the money and the time in fall at 12u? You don't know until you know, but I didn't think it was.

[Bookend]

Here's a list of 12U teams entered into Brenda Marsh memorial.

http://gfp.tournamentasa.com/i!/tournam ... p?TID=2070

[Bookend]

33 Registered Teams - 12A
•ALL AMERICAN SPORTS ACADEMY 12-U RICHARDSON (12A) - LAMONT RICHARDSON
•Cal Lite 12u Molina (12A) - Jorge Molina
•California Aces (12A) - Willie Madrid
•California Thunder 01-Brocki (12A) - William Sanchez
•Case Batbusters 02 (10A) - Will Melendez
•Cerritos Firecrackers 02 (12A) - TJ Houshmandzadeh
•Corona Angels - Tyson (12A) - Domonique Tyson
•Corona Angels - Tyson (10A) - Domonique Tyson
•Firecrackers - Blanco 12U (12A) - Chris Vigil
•Firecrackers - Gallego (12A) - Jerry Gallego
•Firecrackers Bargar 12u (12A) - Brittney Bargar
•Firecrackers Thornburg (12A) - roman gallegos
•Firecrackers-Manny (12A) - Manuel camargo
•Fresno Force - 2001 (Rodriguez) (12A) - George Rodriguez
•Lady Spartans (12A) - Tisha Torres
•Lady Spartans 01 (12A) - Tisha Torres
•Lady Spartans 02 (12A) - Kris Thompson
•LTG Lions (12A) - Jake Lively
•Nemesis Elite 12u Gold (12A) - Rosa Quimson
•Nemesis Elite- Zellien (12A) - Allison Zellien
•OBS Monarchs - Cat (12A) - Cat Carrisosa
•Oc Batbuster/mizuno-mauga (12A) - Matthew Mauga
•OC Batbusters - Steele (12A) - Marcy Steele
•Oc Batbusters {Young} (12A) - Robert Young
•OC Elite Black (12A) - Roger Chavez
•OCBB/TM BRACAMONTE (12A) - Tony Bracamonte
•Power Surge 01 (12A) - John Warrens
•So Cal Athletics 2001 (12A) - Tom Kajitani
•So Cal Athletics Mercado 01 (12A) - Mark Smith
•So Cal Athletics Sota (12A) - Joey Quarles
•So Cal Choppers 01-Vidal (12A) - Bernard Chang
•SoCal As STidd (12A) - Steve Tidd
•Strike Force 02-Jensen (12A) - Jim Jensen



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[POP Time]

If you've got the time and money, take your talent down south and see what you net. It isn't the best financial or competitive decision for most 12u teams, but if a team feels it is above average in this area and that they are not seeing enough good competition in NorCal, let them make the trips. If you are consistently playing the best competition you can find, then your team is going to most likely get better.

Is it worth the money and the time in fall at 12u? You don't know until you know, but I didn't think it was.

Very well said NCN

Answering the question for the Foothill Gold dad I would say if you have won 3 here you should be in at least 2 before the end of fall down south and the CV Showcase does not count. That tournament had nobody in it and was originally scheduled for Modesto. The only reason you ended up in Madera was last minute changes.

My General thought as a second yr 12u team who is trying to make a run at PGF or ASA Nationals would be.

Fall: 2 trips
Spring/ Summer: 3 to 4 if you are playing a 12 to 14 tournament schedule which most teams do.

If I was truly a top team I would do at least 1 early, like the Presidents Day Showdown in So Cal or St Patty's Day Blast in Vegas, Fresno Force in April (goes with out saying, I consider that local) I would also do Mothers Day Classic in So Cal. If you did well at St Patty’s I would probably push for the early PGF qualifier in So Cal as well.
At this point hopefully you have qualified for PGF either down South or here in Stockton. If you have, I would pick up another early summer tourney down south possibly between Memorial Day and Metros or right after metros. Prior to Nationals whether it is PGF or ASA you should play some type of friendly in So Cal to prepare. Hopefully along that So Cal path, your coach was smart enough to network and your team played well enough to set up a worth while So Cal friendly 3 games on Saturday late and 2 on Sunday early so travel is not a killer.

The problem is many coaches do not even know what tourneys to look at or even how to find them.

Remember there is a reason they call it Travel Ball. Driving to Roseville from Stockton or to Stockton from Folsom is not travel.