Hitting: tip & myth of the week

[style]

thats very true rbi i just watched some player at practice that are playing UP cause they are so good, the coach was trying to teach them how to bunt. imo they should probably stay down and learn the proper way!

[EzOut.EzOut]

On the other hand, good thing they're playing UP. At least now, their getting the coaching and practice so they can learn to bunt properly. I would never assume they've ever been taught proper mechanics and then practiced them if they can't execute a good sacrifice bunt. And, sometimes it really is because they're "so good". Some coaches don't want their best hitters bunting...but that's a whole other discussion.

[Iluvblue]

good thing they're playing UP. At least now, their getting the coaching and practice so they can learn to bunt properly


so you assume as the kids get older the coaching gets better?? Coaching is sporadic at EVERY age. You have some good coaches in 12u, and some bad coaches at 12u. You have some good coaches at Gold, and you have some bad coaches at Gold.

[MrHittingCoach]

I agree with blue. just because its an A level team doesn't mean the coaching is good.

As a hitting coach I insist that hitters know how to bunt. and know the difference between a sac and a drag bunt. of course they want to learn how to drag first. When they prove to me they can sac bunt proficiently, then I'll teach them to drag. They usually don't like my definition of proficient though. lol
When coaching a team bp session, you don't get to swing away with me until you bunt your quota. Bunting is a very good vision drill as well.



Heyall- on the issue of 'rolling the wrists starts deceleration' I don't know who did the study, but if you think about it, its a physics issue. When something changes direction it has to slow down. When a hitter begins to roll their wrists the bat starts to change direction. Visualize, swing a bat yourself or watch a swing in slow mo or frame by frame. The barrel starts to raise up and leave the zone when a hitter starts to roll. Its easier to see on a good hitter who gets good extension out front.

This brings up another myth or fallacy:
There are coaches who still teach that extension is out over the plate or at contact.

[Joe]

Tip:

Half of your BP should be oppo.


Myth: (taught by some, but not true)

Your hands should start to roll over at contact.

I'm having trouble with chipping...

...wrist or no wrist?

[EzOut.EzOut]

MrChippingCoach wrote:

Tip:

No wrist. It keeps it simple and repeatable even under extremely stressful circumstances.

[EzOut.EzOut]

thats very true rbi i just watched some player at practice that are playing UP cause they are so good, the coach was trying to teach them how to bunt. imo they should probably stay down and learn the proper way!

My mistake. I thought you were being sarcastic about players who you thought were not good enough to be playing up just because they didn't know how to bunt.

My reply was never meant to imply that coaching is always better as players move up. The Recruiting vs. Developing topic should be a whole other thread of discussion.

[Heyall]

Okay - slow time of year and it's not rotineal so what the heck - this is as good as any for discussion purposes

Remembering I agree with you, (and purely for the sake of argument) if one were to adjust the swing so that the rolling wrists actually brought the bat to the proper point of contact, in a swing if one were to roll the wrists is one actually engaging additional muscles in the lower forearm which would accelerate the bat-head somewhat? To "roll" the wrists, is the top wrist not "cocking" rather than changing the direction? In doing so, is that accelerating rather than decelerating the bat?

I'm sure ssarge will pop in here at some point with a much better and ridiculously thorough and elegant version of what I'm suggesting but in the meantime, I can see both sides of the argument and I have never taught the wrist roll.

Still though...

[Cheeto]

Re: Hitting: tip & myth of the week
thats very true rbi i just watched some player at practice that are playing UP cause they are so good, the coach was trying to teach them how to bunt. imo they should probably stay down and learn the proper way!

Very interesting. A "Coach" teaching a player how to successfully bunt. I would think that is a very good thing in today's "daddy ball era". Aparently, she had not been taught "correctly". So, this player shouldn't play UP because of this? This is amazing. Speaking out of both sides of your mouth Style. If she is playing up, she must be capable. Next it appears to me that she didn't get "good" coaching at 14's, so why stay there?! Play to Play and/or help that team go further? Now that's good for them! And Who says your way is the "proper way"? How much experience in this matter do "YOU" have? What are your qualifications? What was wrong with what they were being taught at this practice ? Sounds like sour grapes to me. Just think of it this way. When players move up (or play up), it allows for your DD to play (sorry, play more) at her level. Question for you Style. If your daughter was asked by ILB to "Play UP", would she? Is she ready? You would, so don't hate (or be jealous) those who already have.

[style]

im not hating on anyone if that lil girls parents think she good enogh to compete at that level let i be i just think its better if the player stay at their age and get the most playing time they can why go up to a team carrying 15+ girl where you wont get much time, that all i as saying. cheeto and to answer your question i have no experince at all and my daughter wont be going up early she needs to stay down and learn the game, if you want more info i could get you a resume. i also dont know what the hell your sour grapes shit your talking about so can you explain it.