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by Clamato » Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:52 pm

In a court of law - Two innocent people had a altercation and one ends up dead. Manslaughter at the very least (except Florida)

Morally - One adult with a gun aproaches a child without a gun a gets punched in the nose and then shoots to kill. I quess by Florida law he's innocent. It was not premeditated (unlike OJ) nor can you say he's a racist. You can say this man is an IDIOT. He will have to live with the fact he killed a child that was doing nothing legaly wrong when HE initiated the altercation. Since no witnesses saw the altercation start, it's hard for me to take the living mans word over the dead mans version. Zimmerman is a guy that felt empowered by owning a gun as many people do. He felt the gun made him a tough guy and gave him a sense of authority (Barney Fife). He is definitely responsible for the death of another human. Martin was a kid with a bad attitude and liked to get high. I know many bad attitude high school stoners I grew up with that are productive republican citizens now. Ultimately I have to put the majority of the blame on the adult who did not need a gun to be in the neighborhood WATCH (not shoot) and should have listened to the 911 dispatcher. Instead "he wasn't going to let him get away" and sure enough he was right. Race is not the issue. Stupidity is! We all racial profile to a degree but don't take it to the level that Zimmerman did. In the end, no one wins and the Martins will never see Travon again. The people who are looting and acting like idiots are doing the same thing Zimmerman did. Taking advantage of situation they have no business being involved with.
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by as the world turns » Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:27 pm

Clamato wrote:In a court of law - Two innocent people had a altercation and one ends up dead. Manslaughter at the very least (except Florida)

Morally - One adult with a gun aproaches a child without a gun a gets punched in the nose and then shoots to kill. I quess by Florida law he's innocent. It was not premeditated (unlike OJ) nor can you say he's a racist. You can say this man is an IDIOT. He will have to live with the fact he killed a child that was doing nothing legaly wrong when HE initiated the altercation. Since no witnesses saw the altercation start, it's hard for me to take the living mans word over the dead mans version. Zimmerman is a guy that felt empowered by owning a gun as many people do. He felt the gun made him a tough guy and gave him a sense of authority (Barney Fife). He is definitely responsible for the death of another human. Martin was a kid with a bad attitude and liked to get high. I know many bad attitude high school stoners I grew up with that are productive republican citizens now. Ultimately I have to put the majority of the blame on the adult who did not need a gun to be in the neighborhood WATCH (not shoot) and should have listened to the 911 dispatcher. Instead "he wasn't going to let him get away" and sure enough he was right. Race is not the issue. Stupidity is! We all racial profile to a degree but don't take it to the level that Zimmerman did. In the end, no one wins and the Martins will never see Travon again. The people who are looting and acting like idiots are doing the same thing Zimmerman did. Taking advantage of situation they have no business being involved with.


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CHILD = http://iowntheworld.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/trayvonchild.jpg
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by Clamato » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:13 pm

Your right ATWT! After looking at your post its obvious Martin was a dangerous CHILD and deserved to die (legally he was a child, just like legally its ok for an idiot like Zimmerman to own a gun and legally kill a child). This child would've never have voted republican when he turned 18 anyway. At least you won't be paying for his health care or welfare.

Reality=Zimmerman did not see those pictures before he killed the dangerous child
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by PDad » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:26 pm

Clamato wrote:Your right ATWT! After looking at your post its obvious Martin was a dangerous CHILD and deserved to die (legally he was a child, just like legally its ok for an idiot like Zimmerman to own a gun and legally kill a child). This child would've never have voted republican when he turned 18 anyway. At least you won't be paying for his health care or welfare.

Reality=Zimmerman did not see those pictures before he killed the dangerous child

Hypothetical for argument's sake - Zman doesn't shoot the CHILD and he dies because CHILD keeps bashing his head into the sidewalk. CHILD probably gets tried for murder as an ADULT...
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by Clamato » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:30 pm

Unless he was "standing his ground"
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by as the world turns » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:33 pm

Clamato wrote:Your right ATWT! After looking at your post its obvious Martin was a dangerous CHILD and deserved to die (legally he was a child, just like legally its ok for an idiot like Zimmerman to own a gun and legally kill a child). This child would've never have voted republican when he turned 18 anyway. At least you won't be paying for his health care or welfare.

Reality=Zimmerman did not see those pictures before he killed the dangerous child

Of course he did not deserve to die, very unfortunate. Many kids are killed every day, but the media ignores all those stories. Several Trayvons have been killed in Chicago alone during the time frame of the trial, it really is a sad American tragedy. Too bad the Left is using this event to keep America divided.

Why did the Media use a picture of twelve year old Trayvon instead of the more current ones in the link?
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by PDad » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:57 pm

Clamato wrote:Unless he was "standing his ground"

Possible defense strategy, but he would be put on trial and the jury would only hear his side of the story...
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by as the world turns » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:07 pm

Dugout Dad wrote:I guess NBC is a bit of trouble over altering some tape

Here’s how NBC News, in a March 27, 2012, broadcast of the “Today” show, abridged the tape of Zimmerman’s comments to a police dispatcher on the evening of Feb. 26, 2012:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.



The full tape went like this:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.




Who is the race baiter? NBC


Clamato, DD posted this. Why did NBC do this? Why??

My guess is that they want a race war and you and me and most innocent Americans are caught in the middle.

I grew up in a mixed race school, mixed race neighborhood, never had any problems, so I know it can work.
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by Clamato » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:35 pm

PDad wrote:
Clamato wrote:Unless he was "standing his ground"

Possible defense strategy, but he would be put on trial and the jury would only hear his side of the story...


It worked for Zimmerman
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by Clamato » Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:19 pm

as the world turns wrote:
Dugout Dad wrote:I guess NBC is a bit of trouble over altering some tape

Here’s how NBC News, in a March 27, 2012, broadcast of the “Today” show, abridged the tape of Zimmerman’s comments to a police dispatcher on the evening of Feb. 26, 2012:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.



The full tape went like this:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.




Who is the race baiter? NBC


Clamato, DD posted this. Why did NBC do this? Why??

My guess is that they want a race war and you and me and most innocent Americans are caught in the middle.

I grew up in a mixed race school, mixed race neighborhood, never had any problems, so I know it can work.


I can't speak for msnbc or Fox News. I am speaking to the people that are all worked up trying to defend Zimmermans actions. It made me sick to see thousands of blacks applauding the OJ verdict. But it makes me just as sick to know thousands of republicans gave each other high fives and fist pumps when the Zimmerman verdict was announced. The end result is a child (who legally was a minor) was killed and commited no crime. Zimmerman (Barney Fife) carried a gun to watch the neighborhood and killed a child. No matter what your impression of this child he didn't deserve to die. Republicans are more focused on justifying Zimmerman actions then focusing on justice. I don't think we need to retry Zimmerman or get street justice BS. I think the law needs to be changed so this doesn't happen to any child no matter the color of your skin. You can't defend stupid and there are a lot of people on the bucket taking a good crack at it. The link you posted with Martin smoking and holding a gun was your attempt to defend the stupid ass with the broken nose. I live in a mixed race neighborhood and I can guarantee you msnbc or fox isn't going to start a race war. People of one color not understanding or caring about the others struggles will be a more likely reason a race war will happen.
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