The Price of Liberty - Thank You Edward Snowden

[blackwidow]

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Interesting how Hypocrite Hannity's opinions on NSA surveillance differ depending on who the president is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t27ie4qF ... e=youtu.be

[Dugout Dad]

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Interesting how Hypocrite Hannity's opinions on NSA surveillance differ depending on who the president is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t27ie4qF ... e=youtu.be

Hannity is not a politician, he was not elected. Oboma on the other hand was elected, and he has flipped flopped more than a short order cook at IHOP.

[ontheblack]

He may not be a politician, but he is clearly hypocritical in this case. I used to know someone who worked for the NSA under Bush. He was an officer in the Navy and highly educated (went to either Oxford or Cambridge after Annapolis). He was also a Republican. He did not disclose anything other than to say that he was not happy with the Patriot Act because it went to far.

Kind of reminds me of the story of a Democratic aide on Clinton's first Inauguration Day who voiced his displeasure with a flyover, until another aide said, "Those are ours now".

[Pale Rider]

Funny ol World aint it...In the early 80s I truly expected to A. get vaporized in a tac nuke strike in the Fulda Gap or B. Get cremated in a Abrams tank after I busted a couple hundred Russian T-72s and they finally get me...and now I'm pulling for the Russians...

[jonriv]

So let me get this straight- some low-level functionary who decides on his own to release classified information to a foreign newspaper and then goes to run and hide in China and then goes off to Moscow is your hero?

If he was a whistleblower- why not the Inspector General, a congresman, the NY Times...?

[DonnieS]

So let me get this straight- some low-level functionary who decides on his own to release classified information to a foreign newspaper and then goes to run and hide in China and then goes off to Moscow is your hero?

If he was a whistleblower- why not the Inspector General, a congresman, the NY Times...?

When you work for the government , as I did until 3 weeks ago, in a high security position, you go through a fairly intense review. Mine was even more intense because I had a immediate family member who served in a foreign military - (my father-in-law, a legal immigrant (remember those) served in the Swedish army during WWII ) and we all know how many of those Swedes have come in to our country , grabbing planes, wearing bombs, etc. etc. ) and so it took me longer to get clearance. What they cant test for - is sense, plain and simple sense. That's why sfb's like this guy takes a lot of information that he has access to and gives it to whoever. Just like the highly educated but incredibly stupid scientists who worked on the manhattan project that gave the atomic bomb secrets to the soviets. Lots of education DOES NOT EQUAL intelligence.

And I agree with JR, if he was really a whistleblower , why didn't he go an honest congressman (oops, never mind) or a legitimate news media agency (ok nevermind again), but there most of been someone. Really.

[jonriv]

So let me get this straight- some low-level functionary who decides on his own to release classified information to a foreign newspaper and then goes to run and hide in China and then goes off to Moscow is your hero?

If he was a whistleblower- why not the Inspector General, a congresman, the NY Times...?

When you work for the government , as I did until 3 weeks ago, in a high security position, you go through a fairly intense review. Mine was even more intense because I had a immediate family member who served in a foreign military - (my father-in-law, a legal immigrant (remember those) served in the Swedish army during WWII ) and we all know how many of those Swedes have come in to our country , grabbing planes, wearing bombs, etc. etc. ) and so it took me longer to get clearance. What they cant test for - is sense, plain and simple sense. That's why sfb's like this guy takes a lot of information that he has access to and gives it to whoever. Just like the highly educated but incredibly stupid scientists who worked on the manhattan project that gave the atomic bomb secrets to the soviets. Lots of education DOES NOT EQUAL intelligence.

And I agree with JR, if he was really a whistleblower , why didn't he go an honest congressman (oops, never mind) or a legitimate news media agency (ok nevermind again), but there most of been someone. Really.

Myissue in getting my clearance was due to my Mother being born in England(an ally) My Father had trouble because his mother was Czech(Czescslovakia then being part of the Warsaw Pact) He said to the interviewer, "It was the Austr-Hungarian empire when she left there"

[Dugout Dad]

[jonriv]

Whistleblowers do not give their information to foreign papers and governments(some potential adversaries)

[Dugout Dad]

Whistleblowers do not give their information to foreign papers and governments(some potential adversaries)

I think if he would have brought these concerns to his superiors, he would have been silenced, permanently. No US newspaper would have reported on this because fear of the DOJ arresting their reporters.