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by Sftbll4ever » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:02 pm

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Did the fed. gov. tell them they had to?? Probable not.
Uno has posted many inspiring threads on athletes who have disabilities. I am pretty sure that the coaches were not instructed they the must choose these individuals by gov.
You can make it fool proof, but you can not make it damn fool proof.
There will always be those that will look on with distain at others who are not like themselves, and there are those that see more to something than meets the common eye. It is these people with their free will that makes it better.
Now help me understand why the fed. gov. must get involved. :?


I can only imagine it is because there are so many out there that will not allow some persons with disabilities to play sports just because they are different.

As rediculous as it is, they created it for a reason. Kinda like the warnings at the gas station that tell you not to consume the gasoline.
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by jonriv » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:08 pm

DonnieS wrote:What I dont understand is - any body that fits the age categories can register to play now. There is nothing that says that - little Rose has a learning disability and doesnt think fast enough - so she cant register to play softball. With any luck, she has parents that understand what her capabilities are - and put her in sports that are built for kids like that - like Kickball - which is what we did with my granddaughter.

So my question, other than the obvious (democrats can solve any problem by passing more laws and raising taxes), why would something like this be done ?

If it goes into effect, I think there ought to be limits in basketball to a) raise the basket to 12 feet so you really have to have a skill to score baskets, and b) put ethnic background limits per team - its not fair having athletically gifted ethnic groups playing together - spread them out.


Actually the ADA was sponsored by Bob Dole.

I also think we are reading far more into this than what it is actualy saying. Remember that USA Today has a terrible way of condedensing things in order to fit them in- perhaps that is why we are seeing some contradictory things in the article. USA Today reminds me of non-alcoholic beer. tastes alright at first, but leaves me unsatisfied.

My guess that unlike your school Donnie- there are towns/schools/coaches that have not been as open and accomodating. The initial study was from the GAO(which is non-partisan)
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by blue1956 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:19 pm

My first thought is the safety of these disabled kids playing against kids without disability, also the concern of the kids not feeling equal and the reality hits them that they are not equal in sports will there be another emotional roller coaster for these kids with disabilities. I dont have a child that is disabled, but if I did I think I would want them to be around other children they could relate too...
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by DonnieS » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:30 pm

blue1956 wrote:My first thought is the safety of these disabled kids playing against kids without disability, also the concern of the kids not feeling equal and the reality hits them that they are not equal in sports will there be another emotional roller coaster for these kids with disabilities. I dont have a child that is disabled, but if I did I think I would want them to be around other children they could relate too...


Blue , thats exactly what we thought (key word there - thought) about when my daughter put my granddaughter in kickball, though the primary 'disability' in kickball in south texas is obesity.
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by blue1956 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:01 pm

DonnieS wrote:
blue1956 wrote:My first thought is the safety of these disabled kids playing against kids without disability, also the concern of the kids not feeling equal and the reality hits them that they are not equal in sports will there be another emotional roller coaster for these kids with disabilities. I dont have a child that is disabled, but if I did I think I would want them to be around other children they could relate too...


Blue , thats exactly what we thought (key word there - thought) about when my daughter put my granddaughter in kickball, though the primary 'disability' in kickball in south texas is obesity.

Good to hear you still have your sense of humor about that...but sad to say I understand some of the talk on this thread about yhaving heart, some disabilities not as big a problem than some others disabilities...but since we are on mainly softball here will it take one of these kids being hurt by a pitch(not being able to get out the way of the ball), a batted ball(line drive), or other kids on the team complaining that they lose because of the disabled kid on the team(kids can be mean) before this is inforced or removed as a law?
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by jonriv » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:10 pm

'reasonable modifications'

Let's not get crazy guys.......

Still would need to be medically cleared to play(like all athletes)
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by blue1956 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:15 pm

jonriv wrote:'reasonable modifications'

Let's not get crazy guys.......

Still would need to be medically cleared to play(like all athletes)

I sure hope your right, maybe we are over the top! But time will only tell....
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by jonriv » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:28 pm

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by DonnieS » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:43 pm

Spazsdad wrote:Of course they did.
A lawyer. Lawyers have abolished the need for common sense in society.


Dead on.
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by Dugout Dad » Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:22 pm

Boy, I have missed the action on this post :lol:

my 2 cents:

I will always trust people over the government in doing the right thing. ADA's intentions were sound and correct, but it was written too loosely and the government and lawyers have made it into a monster. I think the same thing will happen with the government dictating disabilities and sports. I trust human nature over a lawyer's pocket.
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