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by DonnieS » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:13 pm

GIMNEPIWO wrote:
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GIMNEPIWO wrote:http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-big-fracking-bubble-the-scam-behind-the-gas-boom-20120301

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/bl ... e-20120306


G-man, the clue here as to the worth of this information is that this is covered under Politics. That's pretty funny all by itself.

Have a good one, got to focus on getting some products ready. Girls got their first games this week, DD2 first of her college years, and DD1, first in two years.


DD is in Georgia nest week ... Florida the week after and then back in VA & NC ... HS team is shaping up, tryouts next week ... 3rd oldest DD is my Asst. Coach ... 5th oldest who helped me last year is a volunteer coach but cant commit to a paid job ... We have no pitching, hitting, fielding or speed ... This team has not one a district game in 10 years, so we have no where to go but up ... ;)


Doesn't get any better than that - having your kid as an asst. No pitching, hitting, fielding, or speed, other than that, pretty good? Talk about a target rich environment, you are going to be do a lot of teaching. Wins will have to be measured by degree of improvement.

And a new coach came in to help out, the girls are very excited.
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by jonriv » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:21 pm

http://www.epa.gov/airquality/oilandgas/

Happy reading G :D

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by jonriv » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:32 pm

Spaz- if you want some I have a foot of it around my house and a couple of 10 ft piles at the end of my driveway. Would be happy to let you take some.
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by GIMNEPIWO » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:55 pm

jonriv wrote:http://www.epa.gov/airquality/oilandgas/

Happy reading G :D

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A lot of words that mean : Your tap water is on fire and no one gives a sh*t :lol:
"For the strength of the pack is the wolf, the strength of the wolf is the pack" Rudyard Kipling
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by GIMNEPIWO » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:58 pm

Spazsdad wrote:Uhm....Snow? :lol:


I think her drink is stuck in the snow on the left ... LOL ...
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by hit4power » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:29 pm

Wow .. pretty tough regs ... the well has to have a casing ? ... HFS ? How can big biz handle that ? Show me the regs on the chemicals that they are putting in the ground ...


Have a look here: http://fracfocus.org/ It is not an industry site and has a lot of useful information. As explained on the website, there are many regs already in effect at both federal and state levels on injection/handling/disclosure of chemicals. The pushback from industry has mainly been that additional federal regulation would be less effective than more tailored state regulations due to the simple fact that the geology in the Eagle Ford in Texas is different than the geology in the Bakken (ND) and different than the geology in the Marcellus in PA. A one size fits all approach will not be effective. Industry already designs, drills, and hydraulically fractures wells differently in each of these areas for good reasons and is concerned that local practices already proven safe will be trumped by Fed regs.

Water re-use is a valid point. At this time, after a well is hydraulically fractured, some of the water is produced back along with naturally occuring formation water. It is expensive to dispose of this water (which is normally pumped down a licensed/regulated disposal well) and so a lot of work is underway to find methods to treat and re-use this water. That said, fears that water usage for hydraulic fracturing will result in water shortages are way overblown. Total oil industry use of water is far behind agricultural uses, other industrial uses, and residential use.
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by DonnieS » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:44 pm

GIMNEPIWO wrote:
jonriv wrote:http://www.epa.gov/airquality/oilandgas/

Happy reading G :D

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A lot of words that mean : Your tap water is on fire and no one gives a sh*t :lol:


Actually no one's tap water is on fire - the writers for the Rolling Stones are full of shit. I live in the frack area, I drink the water - from the tap , we farm in those areas, we raise animals in those areas, we trap and kill animals for food (wild hogs, all year long, and deer during season), we fish in the waters and nothing has changed in those waters in years. That's the truth and its not second hand. Its gotten too busy and noisy in the areas I loved to hunt and fish in, that's the reason I would move.

The biggest problem is that BO doesn't want us to become energy independent because he wants us to keep being dependent on his own people.
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