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by DWilson » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:32 pm

Do any stand out? Especially in Central Texas? :?
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by liveintex » Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:20 pm

I'd say that "daddy ball" is quite prevelent wherever you go. I see too many teams out there with coaches that never played the game living vicariously through their daughters. Add in the fans that always whine (Glory) when things don't go their way and it makes me wonder if we need to go to a "no cheer" policy. I say that half jokingly of course but the loudest parents are normally the ones who weren't successful on their own so they cheer on little Jenny or Judy as if they were out there playing.
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by aquarius » Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:44 pm

DWilson wrote:Do any stand out? Especially in Central Texas? :?


To the daddy in central texas who evidently imposed his daddy-will this past weekend:

You are hereby summoned to appear before the heybucket jury in an indirect attempt to get you called out and slammed on the heybucket. It may take 7 or 8 dreadful pages of dribble to get it done but needles to say, the gavel has been rapped and your trial has commenced. Maybe you are guilty, maybe you ain't - but how are inquiring bucket minds ever gonna know unless you step up now and plead your side of the case.

your witness..............
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by Joe » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:08 pm

If not for daddy ball, none of us would be here whining about it.
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by texasugly1 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:29 pm

I think you can have several different types of "Daddy Ball". You can be the dad that has a daughter that really sucks and wont admit it and keeps playing her in spots that hurts her team.
Then you have the dads who will admit it and sits their butt on the bench..smart choice there.
Then you have dads who will admit their DD's plus's and minus's and help her to get better and correct the minus's..
JMO
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by zko2000 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:50 pm

IMO there's a difference between a dad coach and a "daddy baller".

Dad Coach...Treats players equally
Daddy Baller - Plays favorites with dd and the girls she played with since rec....or is a major harda$$ with his dd while cutting the others some slack

Dad Coach....Even if he didn't play (which he probably played baseball) realizes that he doesn't know everything and studies his butt off, attends clinics, and is always trying to improve himself as a coach.
Daddy Baller....Relies on his own little league of intramural experience to coach the team and refuses to accept the fact that he is not the omniscient God of all things softball

Dad Coach....looks for the potential in every player and tries to play them in the positions that will most benefit them and the team as much as possible. Tries to avoid stereotypes and gives players the opportunity to prove themselves.
Daddy Baller....dd plays favorite position in virtually every game... period... regardless of skill level. Although he's a poor judge of talent is known to make snap judgements on talent and ability based on stereotypes and not change them....ever.

Coach Dad....Has good communication, organization, and is respectful to parents, players, and coaches, as well as opposing teams
Daddy Baller....Rarely has a set practice time, sporadic or unclear in communicating, essentially runs a dictatorship...I know all!!!

We've been on teams with both, and there is definitely a difference.

Anyone else want to add to the list? Game management, equipment, drills, etc...
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by ChangeUP » Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:11 am

DWilson wrote:Do any stand out? Especially in Central Texas? :?


Apparently DWilson you are trying to "call out" some specific coach or team.... because this is the second post you've had on this same subject !!!
Daddyball is as old as "dirt" and if you didn't know that or expected it, then.........Let me welcome you to the real world of competetive softball. You are not the first nor will you be the last to complain about it.......so my advise to you is......"If you or your DD are not happy in your situation LEAVE !!! Stop whinning about daddyball !!" or Do what other dads that have complained about daddybal have done.......start your own team........that usually solves the daddyball situation !!

NOT !!!

If you had to go to Houston to play........then something's wrong with either you or your DD because there are some teams in the central texas area that do cater to the kids and their development.........sometimes you just have to do your homework !!
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by coolstuff » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:43 pm

zko2000 wrote:IMO there's a difference between a dad coach and a "daddy baller".

Dad Coach....Even if he didn't play (which he probably played baseball) realizes that he doesn't know everything and studies his butt off, attends clinics, and is always trying to improve himself as a coach.
Daddy Baller....Relies on his own little league of intramural experience to coach the team and refuses to accept the fact that he is not the omniscient God of all things softball


There is another sub-species of this kind of Daddy Baller who doesn't know everything, doesn't pretend to know everything, doesn't teach the players a damn thing and has no intention of doing so.
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by DWilson » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:51 am

Change Up,

I don't need to call out anyone. Me and my DD have a life that doesn't need to be "changed up". LOL

You must either be:
1. A coach that knows you are putting your DD ahead of other people with her .128 batting average and is "just average" trying for a D1 school and riding on the uniform tails of other real D1 team mates.

2. Your just a nerd sitting behind a computer wishing your kid played softball while she is
marching in the band.

peace out!
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by SnocatzDad » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:02 am

Coaching your kid is just like buying a boat. The best two days are the day you buy the boat and the day you sell the boat.

IMO 90% of dad coaches look forward to handing her over to someone else to coach because they know that the kid on the team that gets the least out of them coaching is their own DD.

The following are charecteristics of a bad coach regardless of whether he has a DD on the team
Favoritism
Lack of knowledge of what is being coached
Not willing to self improve as a coach
Poor communication
Poor organization of time

I've seen these people that I would rate poorly on all these that were Parent coaches and non parent coaches. I've also seen both parent and non who I would rate highly in all. Most aren't perfect and If I had to live with one flaw, a coach that shows some favoritism to one player (DD or not) isn't at the top of my list for reasons to look elsewhere.
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