Impact Gold

[RlCldH2O]

BleacherFun....Soreshins??? No would be the time for a response to this 'Rumor'.

*Crickets*

[MavFan]

So is McCorkle's team playing in Beaumont this weekend?

I thought you new everything MavFan? No, McCorkle's team is not playing this weekend. A new game schedule was sent out this morning.

Wow, this is getting a little out of hand. Glad I am done with it.

[justawatcher]

I talked to Roni Cole again today, and we are still not allowed to participate in the event.
Very unfortunate. I have 10+ kids that had college coaches scheduled to come watch them play in efforts to have a chance to earn college scholarships.
I will do what I have to do for them to have that chance again soon, and multiple times. I have a few playing with other teams in the event so that they will have that chance.

What colleges were confirmed?

[airborne]

Seems like a lot of blame being laid on the IG. Yet IG does not have 10+ teams to pull. So apparently other organizations feel that the "black listed" teams did something to upset the "committee"....no? Is IG taking the brunt due to being the top dog?

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It makes sense that everyone wants to point out to top dog. But it seems like others have issues with AE too. Is Impact really the issue or easy to blame?

[RlCldH2O]

It seems from the first person account posted by AE, it was KC Jackson.

From second hand accounts it was SI who lead the charge last week to bump the Firecrackers.

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I am not one to be involved in this forum stuff, but I will give a brief, (well try to be brief), version of a point of view from our, Aces Express, standpoint. I feel this is a good time and place, rather someone agrees or not, I am always trying to do what is best for the kids and the sport. I continually help all kids, my team or others get exposed and gain opportunities for a college scholarship, etc. Sure there are kids or parents that may disagree, and even coaches that don’t like me. But that is the nature of this profession. I am loved, liked, disliked and even hated at times but there should never be a time that someone intentionally keeps my kids and teams from playing the game.
Problem with me? Confront me and we can do what is best for the kids. Don’t let you or anyone else’s problems affect the kids!!
I got a call from Roni Cole, TD of SOT, last Friday night. He told me "Dave, I am so sorry to be having to make this phone call but I am going to have to send you your money back and not allow your team to play in our tournament"
I of coursed let him know that we were on the schedule, have paid, have hotels reserved, and have already sent out the schedule to college coaches and have several scheduled to come watch our uncommitted kids play.
He said "Coach, my hands are tied. I received a call from a coach stating he will have 10+ teams pulled out of the event if Aces Express McCorkle plays in it."
I of course asked for names and details of why, and he would not give me any information.
I simply asked him; do you really think this is what is best for the kids?? If they don’t want to play, then that is their choice and they can answer to their players and parents. Don’t make it your choice to intentionally prevent kids from playing.
He stated, "I am so sorry and I do not agree with this, my hands are tied and I am being strong armed. I am trying to build this event and cannot afford to lose that many big named teams"
I of course was very upset and was obviously not only going to fight the tournament, but more importantly the situation and fight for all kids involved. There was obviously someone or some people trying to intentionally affect certain teams and A LOT of kids.
I for one prefer to play teams and coaches I don’t care for, I would NEVER not play or intentionally affect kids that have nothing to do with the differences coaches may have between them.
I made a lot of phone calls, had a lot of conversations, got a lot of information, and was ignored for days by several people. I got a call back from Jonathon Lampl, and he has since that day tried to keep himself out of the situation and expressed that he is not part of this decision by the so called committee. He has assured me that he has tried to talk to Roni Cole and made efforts to fix the situation. He also assured me that we would not be affected in any tournaments he runs. And if those teams choose not to play, then that will be their choice. I have found out the majority of the people involved in the committee and will give them a chance to make this right before I act any further.
I also got a call from KC Jackson, and of course we had a very heated conversation. He assured me that he, or someone from the committee, did call the tournament director and told them that that x amount of teams would not play if he allowed us to play. He told me that the committee that had been formed decided that just these three teams (AE, Firecrackers, Kaos) broke rules that they as a committee had established (without letting any other teams outside the committee know of these rules).
AS I assured him, I was not aware of any tryout rules, and in fact I know for sure that several teams within this committee had tryouts before we, AE, did. He also express recruiting violations, in which I expressed then all teams need to be “suspended” or black balled like we are. We have done nothing wrong, and definitely haven’t done anything all teams have done for years. I told him they cannot hold me at fault for kids and parents wanting to play for us
As far as the illegal tryouts he mentioned, we at AE had some open workouts scheduled for Aug 2nd and 5th or something like that. Again not against any rule I was aware of or SLGSA or ASA was aware of. I was trying to get my team established asap due to my wife having our baby at anytime in mid August. Again within all rules that I was and am still aware of. We would have gladly abided by any rules that ALL Coaches agreed upon.
I got word of an email Stoney sent out about recommending that gold teams wait til after August 4th to have tryouts. So we moved our open workout to Aug 5th to abide to that recommended rule. I did not have to do that because that is not a rule that we are sanctioned under. But out of respect and fairness for the game, I made the adjustment in our schedule
August 5th workout/tryout was canceled, and we did not have our first tryout until; August 9th. AFTER a lot of these teams had their tryouts and workouts. Including several open workouts and invitations to workouts, practices, games, tournaments throughout the summer by several of these teams.
So after expressing all this, and a lot of conversations and research of all this and supposedly KC talking to everyone involved in this committee he called back and said they all still vote no against us????
He stated that because at the committee meeting, they had a printout from our advertisement of our “infractions” of scheduling an early tryout. I of course stated my defense that we didn’t have those tryouts. Stating that all committee members still vote against all three teams that they have found to violate their rules, confirming that it was an all three teams vote or none?????
That is the story from my/our end; obviously I am still very confused and very hopeful that they make it right for the benefit of all the kids!!
I have a lot of information, and have discussed this with several of the people involved, and will out of respect for several of the members involved in this “committee” be glad to withhold any further information and give them time to make this right and do what is best for the girls, the sport and not just their teams.
Please make this right for the kids!
David McCorkle

Mr. McCorkle, If this is really you?!?!

On the outside looking in, you may have a legit concern. Shouldn't you take this up with the coaches that have a problem with you? You have our sympathy vote but go get this fixed for your girls instead of posting in these forums to feed the trash talk. I respect what any of you coaches do for our kids but airing dirty laundry doesn't seem any better than what the EGCC is doing. Get off of this forum and help fix this situation for the girls!

[soreshins]

H20--McCorkle provided facts from his perspective. Facts were something this discussion was lacking. Whether one agrees or disagrees with the effort being made to "police" the gold community, I am frankly appalled that the Impact and other un-named gold teams would be a part of this type of thing.

There may be another side to this story and McCorkle's claims of innocence may be overstated. Still McCorkle's statement stands on it own merit. He has personal knowledge.

According to McCorkle the Aces Express is at the mercy of these more established gold teams. If this is true, McCorkle needs to get along with the Impact and other gold teams for his program to be successful. This year he pled ignorance, next year he will know. We will see what happens next year.

[MavFan]

IMHO Impact is singled out because A) Jonathan Lampl runs most of the tournaments and B) Stoney Burke is the ASA commissioner for Houston ASA. They are the easy target for those reasons in addition to being the top team in the area.

I feel bad for the Coles. They are put in the middle of this pissing match.

The only issue I can see is if AE, Firecrackers or Kaos gave the players a deadline to commit to their team prior to the other teams holding their tryout. This would really have an affect on only first time Gold players or players that didn't know they were going to make the team. Because for the others that were already established players, they were leaving regardless.

As far as the stealing players crap, I agree that players cannot be stolen. There are reasons why families decide to stay with or leave organizations. I don't know why people get all but hurt about it. If a player is happy in your organization she probably won't be out looking for a new one or won't be influenced by the sales pitch if they do come calling.

The fact that tryouts are happening before teams get back from all of the nationals is what is insane. Some teams had tryouts when their gold teams could have potentially been still alive at PGF.

Which leads me to the tryouts themselves. How many of the EGCC even had openings that they hadn't already filled prior to tryouts? The tryouts are for their 2nd teams, why not just be honest with people and post that in your ads for tryouts? 60 kids show up for 1 spot as the 18th player on the top team or one of the spots available on the 2nd team. What a waste of time for those people.

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IMHO Impact is singled out because A) Jonathan Lampl runs most of the tournaments and B) Stoney Burke is the ASA commissioner for Houston ASA. They are the easy target for those reasons in addition to being the top team in the area.

I feel bad for the Coles. They are put in the middle of this pissing match.

The only issue I can see is if AE, Firecrackers or Kaos gave the players a deadline to commit to their team prior to the other teams holding their tryout. This would really have an affect on only first time Gold players or players that didn't know they were going to make the team. Because for the others that were already established players, they were leaving regardless.

As far as the stealing players crap, I agree that players cannot be stolen. There are reasons why families decide to stay with or leave organizations. I don't know why people get all but hurt about it. If a player is happy in your organization she probably won't be out looking for a new one or won't be influenced by the sales pitch if they do come calling.

The fact that tryouts are happening before teams get back from all of the nationals is what is insane. Some teams had tryouts when their gold teams could have potentially been still alive at PGF.

Which leads me to the tryouts themselves. How many of the EGCC even had openings that they hadn't already filled prior to tryouts? The tryouts are for their 2nd teams, why not just be honest with people and post that in your ads for tryouts? 60 kids show up for 1 spot as the 18th player on the top team or one of the spots available on the 2nd team. What a waste of time for those people.

Good point Mav. Before tryouts, I looked at the websites for Impact, Storm and Eclipse and decided not to take my DD to their tryouts because they were only picking up 2-3 players. Really, the problem is between the middle level Gold teams. For every player that leaves 1 of these top Gold teams, 4 players come calling. The hard fact is Impact, Storm and Eclipse don't need to recruit players because most players want to play for them has did my kid.