Was A State this weekend? If so how did it turn out? Watched some good games at Chicago Metros championships. Sparks came out on top again. Chicago Metro Asa is definitely among the best in the country.
How did all the Indiana teams do at Stingrays this weekend? Kudos to all the girls and parents that withstood the heat this week/ weekend.. True athletes and supporters.
IN
2011/12 is getting started soon....who are THE 12/11u teams?
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Likeitornot wrote:How did all the Indiana teams do at Stingrays this weekend? Kudos to all the girls and parents that withstood the heat this week/ weekend.. True athletes and supporters.
I know Indiana Gators placed 2nd at Stingrays tournament. They represented Indiana well and I am sure they will do the same in Moline.
Here is the link to all scores and bracket results for all age groups. Just click on the age group and team for result.
http://12tourney.stingraysfastpitch.com ... t-brackets
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Highest finishing IN teams at Stingrays were:
18U: Dreams Montgomery- Final 4
16U: Team IN Benefiel- Runners Up
14U: IN Magic Gold- Runners Up
12U: IN Gators 99 Whitiker- Runners Up
10U: IN Gators 2001- Champs
IN was very well represented at Stingrays in all age groups!!!
18U: Dreams Montgomery- Final 4
16U: Team IN Benefiel- Runners Up
14U: IN Magic Gold- Runners Up
12U: IN Gators 99 Whitiker- Runners Up
10U: IN Gators 2001- Champs
IN was very well represented at Stingrays in all age groups!!!
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Indiana NSA A STATE RESULTS: C.G. Express 1st, raiders 2nd, indy crush 3rd, gators henry 4th, chics 5th, crown point bulldogs 6th. not sure of rest of results. Express went undefeated to the championship game to face the raiders whom they beat in the first game of bracket play. Most the teams played in extreme temps of 108 deg.(cant cancel tourney because of heat its the nsa A state Tourney,2 UMPS carted off field and 1 player goes down). ALL Teams were put on a three hour heat delay till 5pm were temps still were at 100 deg. By 6:30pm temps were down to around 90 deg. and falling (THANK GOD,IT WAS BRUTAL). The raiders went on to win the next 4 games to get to the championship game at 3:30pm 7 inning game. what if game was to be played at 5 or 5:30.The championship game was one of the most exciting games to watch for all parents, coaches, fans and umps. Both teams (2 of the best in the state, besides the undisputed#1 gators whitiker,a no show because she hasn't beat either team this year and are not worthy of a top 5 in her book 
) battled each and every inning. Bottom of 6th inning of a fast pace game, the express are ahead 5-4. The raiders have runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out. A flash of lightning is spotted in the distance. The game is put on hold til the weather passes. The storm is no danger to the game since it's not moving towards the fields and not one drop a rain will fall. After waiting for approx. 15 min another flash of lightning is seen in the distance. So at approx 5pm both teams are told that the rest of the 12u tournament has to be cancelled because the field is doubled booked for an adults mens league game at 7pm. Why would NSA hold a state game at a complex where you know you don't have the rights to the fields all day on championship sunday. It's a shame, after what all teams had to endure all weekend (record high heat, heat delay, rain delay sat. night, lightning delay), to end it like that. I'm positive both teams wanted to play it out. The competitiveness brought out the best in both teams. After the game the sportsmanship of the girls from both teams and coaches were nothing but CLASS. congratulations to both teams. Good luck to all teams from indiana in ASA ,NSA, USSSA, USFA in post season play. oh and by the way, I stayed an extra hour and a half talking to people and noticed that 3 empty fields; including the field where the championship game was being played. also, the 14U looser bracket games were still being played, as well as the semi-final game... why take care of one age group and not both? what's up with THAT!?
) battled each and every inning. Bottom of 6th inning of a fast pace game, the express are ahead 5-4. The raiders have runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out. A flash of lightning is spotted in the distance. The game is put on hold til the weather passes. The storm is no danger to the game since it's not moving towards the fields and not one drop a rain will fall. After waiting for approx. 15 min another flash of lightning is seen in the distance. So at approx 5pm both teams are told that the rest of the 12u tournament has to be cancelled because the field is doubled booked for an adults mens league game at 7pm. Why would NSA hold a state game at a complex where you know you don't have the rights to the fields all day on championship sunday. It's a shame, after what all teams had to endure all weekend (record high heat, heat delay, rain delay sat. night, lightning delay), to end it like that. I'm positive both teams wanted to play it out. The competitiveness brought out the best in both teams. After the game the sportsmanship of the girls from both teams and coaches were nothing but CLASS. congratulations to both teams. Good luck to all teams from indiana in ASA ,NSA, USSSA, USFA in post season play. oh and by the way, I stayed an extra hour and a half talking to people and noticed that 3 empty fields; including the field where the championship game was being played. also, the 14U looser bracket games were still being played, as well as the semi-final game... why take care of one age group and not both? what's up with THAT!?- basesloaded22
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Thank you everyone who has been so supportive the last week. I have appreciated the advice given, especially from slapperdad, and took his suggestion to “Stay calm, pick and choose your actions and words VERY carefully” and for this reason have not responded to Insoftballnut, or posted on heybucket, before now.
Insoftballnut the hardest thing about communicating through the written word on a forum, such as this, is words are read and interpreted based more on our own experiences and mindset then that of the person who wrote the words.
That said I understand why going to Moline is an honor and great experience for the girls. I personally, along with my dd, were very excited about nationals. I also realized, as slapper stated, there were other factors to consider and thought the coaches leaving the decision up to a parents vote was a wise decision. The girls worked hard to qualify for Moline but no matter which end of the season tourney we attended the girls would have had fun and built memories.
I wanted to briefly address a few of your statements.
“But guess what, even the last place finisher at USA/ASA nationals is a 'WINNER' because they made the cut to be there..Indiana gives out like 4-6 berths to the USA/ASA nationals in each age group,,some states give less and some way more. It should be an honor for any team to make the cut and go.”
The cut in Indiana didn’t seem to be near as hard as it is in other states. Yes there may be only 4-6 berths but look at the number of teams who attended the qualifiers. One NWI qualifier was cancelled due to lack of teams, one in southern Indiana had six teams, the one at terra haute played 10 and 12u together. ASA state had less than ten teams. One of the reason we were so excited to make a team, whose goal was nationals, was because qualifying at 12u, in Indiana, is much easier than at 14u. When we first started playing in qualifiers, in other states, I thought wow this is going to be hard. I am not saying it was easy to qualify in Indiana but at 12u it was much more probable then it will be as the girls age.
Your pointing out alot of maybes of douchbag parents and other things,, the point is that everyone involved in travel ball should know the expense involved and be prepared with fundraisers , car pooling, or friend & family sponsors , if i offended her in any way, i deeply apologize. I agree.
Maybe i understood what dailyjoy was realy trying to say, but i didnt want to be over rude and just say the truth.
You do not know the truth and to make assumptions can be considered rude but I was not offended by what you wrote.
Insoftballnut you would be happy to know the parents did vote and choose to go to Moline. Unfortunately, last Tuesday we received an email from one of our coaches. A parent decided, after the majority had voted for Nationals, they did not want to go to Moline, or any tourney, and instead wanted to play local tourneys to finish out the season.
The team’s goals for the season were clear from the beginning and the girls worked so hard to achieve each goal (which they did). We played in some really tough tourneys in Illinois and Michigan focused on preparing and qualifying for Moline. Playing in local tourney’s and not attending Nationals, or even the NSA world series or ASA northern was never part of the plan, therefore, the coaches voted to end the season. I understand their decision. They also choose not to play in NSA state this past weekend due to concern parents may get in an argument.
I still can’t believe in the blink of an eye the season is over and the girls never had a chance to say goodbye. It is very sad. How do you explain to a young 12 year old girl why all her hard work, everything she worked for during the season, has ended?
My dd is upset but isn’t giving up on softball or the goal planted in her this season. We joined an A team who’s goal was to qualify and play in the ASA/USA national championship. We were clueless, and according to Insoftballnut still are, what this season would bring. Even though it ended in disappointment the season changed dd from a girl who enjoyed playing softball to someone who thrives on tough competition and has ambitious hopes of going to the ASA/USA 14u championship next year in Normal Illinois……….Now we just have to find her a new team
Thats very good what she's doing with a child thats not even her's as you stated, But where i come from,we never tell the right hand what the left one has done,,
On a side note I don’t think I have ever mentioned the child I support and encourage in softball was not my daughter. I usually put dd just because it is easier than explaining my relationship to her.
I want to take a moment to thank everyone who posted in the 12u thread and the Indiana forum. I have learned so much this year reading what you have written and enjoyed bantering back and forth with you.
I also want to wish everyone the best of luck in their chosen end of the year championship. Whether it is NSA, ASA, the Worlds Series or a National Championship each team should be very proud of all they accomplished this year. Hopefully each girl will go away from the championship with great memories and a desire to achieve even more next year.
I am not sure how active I will be here from now on. Though dd really wants to play again next year I just don't know if I believe there are teams out there where the girls really do come first and the team is of higher priority then any one girl. Are there?
Insoftballnut the hardest thing about communicating through the written word on a forum, such as this, is words are read and interpreted based more on our own experiences and mindset then that of the person who wrote the words.
That said I understand why going to Moline is an honor and great experience for the girls. I personally, along with my dd, were very excited about nationals. I also realized, as slapper stated, there were other factors to consider and thought the coaches leaving the decision up to a parents vote was a wise decision. The girls worked hard to qualify for Moline but no matter which end of the season tourney we attended the girls would have had fun and built memories.
I wanted to briefly address a few of your statements.
“But guess what, even the last place finisher at USA/ASA nationals is a 'WINNER' because they made the cut to be there..Indiana gives out like 4-6 berths to the USA/ASA nationals in each age group,,some states give less and some way more. It should be an honor for any team to make the cut and go.”
The cut in Indiana didn’t seem to be near as hard as it is in other states. Yes there may be only 4-6 berths but look at the number of teams who attended the qualifiers. One NWI qualifier was cancelled due to lack of teams, one in southern Indiana had six teams, the one at terra haute played 10 and 12u together. ASA state had less than ten teams. One of the reason we were so excited to make a team, whose goal was nationals, was because qualifying at 12u, in Indiana, is much easier than at 14u. When we first started playing in qualifiers, in other states, I thought wow this is going to be hard. I am not saying it was easy to qualify in Indiana but at 12u it was much more probable then it will be as the girls age.
Your pointing out alot of maybes of douchbag parents and other things,, the point is that everyone involved in travel ball should know the expense involved and be prepared with fundraisers , car pooling, or friend & family sponsors , if i offended her in any way, i deeply apologize. I agree.
Maybe i understood what dailyjoy was realy trying to say, but i didnt want to be over rude and just say the truth.
You do not know the truth and to make assumptions can be considered rude but I was not offended by what you wrote.
Insoftballnut you would be happy to know the parents did vote and choose to go to Moline. Unfortunately, last Tuesday we received an email from one of our coaches. A parent decided, after the majority had voted for Nationals, they did not want to go to Moline, or any tourney, and instead wanted to play local tourneys to finish out the season.
The team’s goals for the season were clear from the beginning and the girls worked so hard to achieve each goal (which they did). We played in some really tough tourneys in Illinois and Michigan focused on preparing and qualifying for Moline. Playing in local tourney’s and not attending Nationals, or even the NSA world series or ASA northern was never part of the plan, therefore, the coaches voted to end the season. I understand their decision. They also choose not to play in NSA state this past weekend due to concern parents may get in an argument.
I still can’t believe in the blink of an eye the season is over and the girls never had a chance to say goodbye. It is very sad. How do you explain to a young 12 year old girl why all her hard work, everything she worked for during the season, has ended?
My dd is upset but isn’t giving up on softball or the goal planted in her this season. We joined an A team who’s goal was to qualify and play in the ASA/USA national championship. We were clueless, and according to Insoftballnut still are, what this season would bring. Even though it ended in disappointment the season changed dd from a girl who enjoyed playing softball to someone who thrives on tough competition and has ambitious hopes of going to the ASA/USA 14u championship next year in Normal Illinois……….Now we just have to find her a new team
Thats very good what she's doing with a child thats not even her's as you stated, But where i come from,we never tell the right hand what the left one has done,,
On a side note I don’t think I have ever mentioned the child I support and encourage in softball was not my daughter. I usually put dd just because it is easier than explaining my relationship to her.
I want to take a moment to thank everyone who posted in the 12u thread and the Indiana forum. I have learned so much this year reading what you have written and enjoyed bantering back and forth with you.
I also want to wish everyone the best of luck in their chosen end of the year championship. Whether it is NSA, ASA, the Worlds Series or a National Championship each team should be very proud of all they accomplished this year. Hopefully each girl will go away from the championship with great memories and a desire to achieve even more next year.
I am not sure how active I will be here from now on. Though dd really wants to play again next year I just don't know if I believe there are teams out there where the girls really do come first and the team is of higher priority then any one girl. Are there?
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basesloaded22 wrote:Indiana NSA A STATE RESULTS: C.G. Express 1st, raiders 2nd, indy crush 3rd, gators henry 4th, chics 5th, crown point bulldogs 6th. not sure of rest of results. Express went undefeated to the championship game to face the raiders whom they beat in the first game of bracket play. Most the teams played in extreme temps of 108 deg.(cant cancel tourney because of heat its the nsa A state Tourney,2 UMPS carted off field and 1 player goes down). ALL Teams were put on a three hour heat delay till 5pm were temps still were at 100 deg. By 6:30pm temps were down to around 90 deg. and falling (THANK GOD,IT WAS BRUTAL). The raiders went on to win the next 4 games to get to the championship game at 3:30pm 7 inning game. what if game was to be played at 5 or 5:30.The championship game was one of the most exciting games to watch for all parents, coaches, fans and umps. Both teams (2 of the best in the state, besides the undisputed#1 gators whitiker,a no show because she hasn't beat either team this year and are not worthy of a top 5 in her book
Wow, In all my years involved in travel ball i have seen all above that you say pal,but, I have never seen one age group of kids being stoped in a championship game and yet let another age group of girls continue play at the same venue .
WOW, i'm a little speechless to that one,, they over booked the fields you say also, for another league ready to play at 7pm.
Lets even say another league wasn't even going to play. Why did the other girls continue to play and another group was cancled, I would write to or call the main NSA office and demand my money back either for there overbooking and canceling your play early, because even if it was weather related,,why did the other group of girls continue?
Wow, thats crazy, glad my dd has been playing all ASA the last 6 years,,everone involved should get to the bottom of that travesty so that it never happens again for all involved.
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Daily, there have been rumbles that your team disbanded and it is really quite sad. For the girls who put their blood, sweat and tears into a season and obtained a Asa/USA berth only to have that cut short. I would be livid at the coaches that allowed this to happen. My advice, stick with an established program with many teams or someone with a good track record.
Good luck to your dd and hopefully you get to see next year what a great travel program is like.
Good luck to your dd and hopefully you get to see next year what a great travel program is like.
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dailyjoy, I sincerely do apologize for anything I said that might have been either said by me or might of been understood the wrong way, I'm sorry..
But on one very good point that I can suggest, If you dont allready know. All teams that are going to the nationals in moline '' are allowed too pick up [2] pick up players to add on there rousters'',
Maybe if you wanted to really go, and your dd would fit in somebodies team for what they might need going to nationals,, maybe consider getting in touch with some teams that are going and maybe she can get a few practices in to see if they might need her. just a suggestion.
maybe some team is looking for a specific player who might specialize in,, speed and base knowledge,, maybe she has a tree trunk for a bat and has a good eye for the ball..maybey there looking for a good glove to fill in at times, maybe they need some lefty slapper/bunters or maybe a good utility player. Good luck and move fast if your intrested,, make them calls
But on one very good point that I can suggest, If you dont allready know. All teams that are going to the nationals in moline '' are allowed too pick up [2] pick up players to add on there rousters'',
Maybe if you wanted to really go, and your dd would fit in somebodies team for what they might need going to nationals,, maybe consider getting in touch with some teams that are going and maybe she can get a few practices in to see if they might need her. just a suggestion.
maybe some team is looking for a specific player who might specialize in,, speed and base knowledge,, maybe she has a tree trunk for a bat and has a good eye for the ball..maybey there looking for a good glove to fill in at times, maybe they need some lefty slapper/bunters or maybe a good utility player. Good luck and move fast if your intrested,, make them calls
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[quote="basesloaded22"]Indiana NSA A STATE RESULTS: C.G. Express 1st, raiders 2nd, indy crush 3rd, gators henry 4th, chics 5th, crown point bulldogs 6th. not sure of rest of results. Both teams (2 of the best in the state, besides the undisputed#1 gators whitiker,a no show because she hasn't beat either team this year and are not worthy of a top 5 in her book :
Basesloaded22 please do not speak of things you do not know about....
1st.. I am shocked you are not aware of the rest of the results since there were so many quality teams there.....was it 9 whole teams???
2nd Gators 99 was a no show because we were in Columbus OH at the stingray invitational. Where 24 teams that qualified to play in a single elimination weekend tournament played. Teams from IN,OH,MI,KY and PA we won 7 games in a row but fell to the Lady Laser Purple in the Championship game that was also 7 innings.
This was a truly great tournament to warm up the team for Nationals in Moline, IL.
Oh 1 more thing Gators have beat Express this season......and have only seen Raiders once back in early fall....please check your records.
oops:
Basesloaded22 you did out do us in 1 department....it was only 104* so we did not get any delays due to extreme heat we just had to play through it.
Good luck everyone at Nationals and then tryouts
Cynthia Whitaker
Basesloaded22 please do not speak of things you do not know about....
1st.. I am shocked you are not aware of the rest of the results since there were so many quality teams there.....was it 9 whole teams???
2nd Gators 99 was a no show because we were in Columbus OH at the stingray invitational. Where 24 teams that qualified to play in a single elimination weekend tournament played. Teams from IN,OH,MI,KY and PA we won 7 games in a row but fell to the Lady Laser Purple in the Championship game that was also 7 innings.
This was a truly great tournament to warm up the team for Nationals in Moline, IL.
Oh 1 more thing Gators have beat Express this season......and have only seen Raiders once back in early fall....please check your records.
oops:
Basesloaded22 you did out do us in 1 department....it was only 104* so we did not get any delays due to extreme heat we just had to play through it.
Good luck everyone at Nationals and then tryouts
Cynthia Whitaker
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madwhit wrote:basesloaded22 wrote:Indiana NSA A STATE RESULTS: C.G. Express 1st, raiders 2nd, indy crush 3rd, gators henry 4th, chics 5th, crown point bulldogs 6th. not sure of rest of results. Both teams (2 of the best in the state, besides the undisputed#1 gators whitiker,a no show because she hasn't beat either team this year and are not worthy of a top 5 in her book :
Basesloaded22 please do not speak of things you do not know about....
1st.. I am shocked you are not aware of the rest of the results since there were so many quality teams there.....was it 9 whole teams???
2nd Gators 99 was a no show because we were in Columbus OH at the stingray invitational. Where 24 teams that qualified to play in a single elimination weekend tournament played. Teams from IN,OH,MI,KY and PA we won 7 games in a row but fell to the Lady Laser Purple in the Championship game that was also 7 innings.
This was a truly great tournament to warm up the team for Nationals in Moline, IL.
Oh 1 more thing Gators have beat Raiders and Express this season......please check your records.
oops:
Basesloaded22 you did out do us in 1 department....it was only 104* so we did not get any delays due to extreme heat we just had to play through it.
Good luck everyone at Nationals and then tryouts
Cynthia Whitaker
Job well done Cynthia and gators 99, i'm sure it was a great tournament, a couple of decent teams played in ohio this past weekend, i seen the list.
Dont let some of these people on here pester you at all, stay cool.
P.S. Wow some high scoring games you had earlier in the games beforehand but save some of those points for the final game next time,,lasers purple [15],,gators 99,,,[,0],,,thats not a game, thats a beating
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